ID help Type C Washington

[coinzip]

I'm thinking its a type C, what do you think?

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[19Lyds]

I think its simply a well struck Type A coin. That little leaf under the arrow shaft over by the tips looks too rounded to be a Type C. The eagles tail feathers are also all wrong. You should see center veins in the feathers and even on AU examples, the feathers are quite distinct.

[Meddle]

I think its simply a well struck Type A coin. That little leaf under the arrow shaft over by the tips looks too rounded to be a Type C. The eagles tail feathers are also all wrong. You should see center veins in the feathers and even on AU examples, the feathers are quite distinct.

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Type C Reverse, PCGS AU50

[coinzip]

The leaf in front of the arrow points and above the A in dollar are better defined on the type C than on the type A. Type B is not a factor for the 1964-D. Here are the diagnostic markers for the type C.

Markers:
Stage A: Reverse and Obverse are EDS
Stage B: Die crack down eagle's Right (viewer's Left) wing – MDS
Die crack in field outside eagle's lower Right wing
Die crack on wing under AMERIC of AMERICA
Die chip on eagle's lower Left (viewer's Right) wing
Die crack US of PLURIBUS to wing
Die crack across bust into queue – MDS
Light die crack Northeast from N of IN
Stage C: Two medium die chips on eagle's lower Left (viewer's Right)
wing – LDS
Die break between RU of TRUST – LDS


Die crack across bust into queue
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Die crack US of PLURIBUS to wing
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Die crack in field outside eagle's lower Right wing
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Die crack on wing under AMERIC of AMERICA
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[JamesWiles]

Your coin is RDV-001. The tail feathers are not the right style for RDV-003. You must attribute the variety first, then use the markers to confirm. Second you must have all the markers in the stage to confirm the stage.

[coinzip]

So the markers are used to determine the Stage, not the variety?

Is that a correct statement?

[wavysteps]

Not actually. Die markers are used to identify both stage and variety. For instance; the trail dies that I work with have a tendency to be very similar in a given year.The only means to distinguish some from others is the die markers. However, since die markers can come and go, they are also an indicator of what stage the die is in regards to the die state, EDS, MDS and LDS. So, as the die markers appear and disappear, the indicate what state the die is in, plus they help to identify what the anomaly is.

BJ Neff

[coinzip]

Thanks for the help and education, I truly appreciate your time.

Alan Stullenbarger