Foreign Mint Errors

[Daniel]

Hello,
I'm Daniel from Germany, ECIE: dani200105, ebay: laboraffe03.

I'd like to open this thread for foreign mint erros and i'd like to invite you to post your pix :)

I'd like to start with a 1 Pfennig 1950 G i just bought from a German collector:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/DaniSchneider/1PFds1.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/DaniSchneider/1PFds2-1.jpg

btw - German Pfennig double strike are very rare, they are not like Lincoln double strikes :p

Thanks,
Daniel Schneider

[foundinrolls]

Nice Coin and WELCOME!!

[Daniel]

500 Lire - Italy - double strike without core
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/DaniSchneider/500Lds1.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/DaniSchneider/500Lds2.jpg

200 Lire - capped die with brockages
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/DaniSchneider/cap1.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/DaniSchneider/cap2.jpg

[f6tornado]

Hello Daniel,
Great to see you here. Great looking errors!
Found any more doubled dies?
Harold

[Seeindubl]

Hi can someone tell me if this Toonie (Canada 2 Dollar) has what is referred to as a misaligned core? This is an Oh Canada Set so was difficult to get a photo, however if I was inclined to... the edge of the core sticks out enough to get your finger nail under. It is evident on the reverse except the core is sunk in, Is this considered just damage? Thank you.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc20/Daggoot/2003OhCanadaSet003.jpg

[diamond]

It's not a misaligned core. Instead it's a loose or poorly fitting core. It could be damage or it could simply have shifted position after the strike. I suppose you could consider it an error, since the core is supposed to fit tightly into the ring. It doesn't have much value, though.

[Seeindubl]

Thank you for the explanation Mike.
Sandra

[russellhome]

For the heck of it, I bought some Euro Cent bank rolls to search. I found nothing in the way of die varieties - but did find these two potential "strike-thru" errors. I'm no expert concerning these, so your opinions please...

http://www.idsimis.com/photos2/eurostrikethru1.jpg

http://www.idsimis.com/photos2/eurostrikethru2.jpg

http://www.idsimis.com/photos2/eurostrikethru3.jpg
Here is a slightly closer shot and a different lighting angle of the 2nd one.

[diamond]

They are strike-thrus, but as is the case with most such errors, I have no idea what made them.

[russellhome]

This 1937 D 2 Reichsmark coin isn't the boldest Nazi era DD I've found, but still a nice DDO (or TDO), with doubling clear on the top half of the coin.

http://www.idsimis.com/photos2/ger1937_2mrk_ddo01.jpg

http://www.idsimis.com/photos2/ger1937_2mrk_ddo02.jpg

http://www.idsimis.com/photos2/ger1937_2mrk_ddo03.jpg
Bold double eyelid

And just to make things more interesting, the reverse has a rim to rim die crack on the bottom third of the coin (from 8 o'clock to 4 o'clock).

http://www.idsimis.com/photos2/ger1937_2mrk_ddorev.jpg

Question: Would this coin be considered a retained cud - or would the die break have to be a little more substantial for the 'retained cud' designation to apply?

[pennycat]

HI. I would like to share what I found and opinion please.

[wavysteps]

To be honest with you, it appears to be machine doubling. The lack of notching and the shelf like appearence of the doubling are two indicators of this type of affect.

BJ Neff

[pennycat]

Okey! Here is an other one Tailand 25 Satang.
Thanks.

[diamond]

The first looks like die deterioration doubling. The second looks like machine doubling.

[pennycat]

Bj, Mike.
Thank you for the opinions. What are the difference between die deterioration and machine doubling any of them considered as an error?
Pennycat.

[wavysteps]

There is a marked difference between die deterioration and machine doubling.

Die deterioration doubling is a natural effect, caused by the metal moving over the die face and eroding it. As the die ages, metal flow will start to hollow out places on the die, normal next to a design element and in a direction away from the center. This hollowing out of the die face leaves raised areas on the coin which appear to be a duplicate of the design element, but in reality, they are not.

Machine doubling is a function of a loose or chattering die. What happens here is that the coin, after the initial strike, will bounce up and hit the retreating die again. The affect design elements are not actually doubled, but a portion of them become flattened due to this erroneous strike, giving it the appearance of extra thickness and doubling.

BJ Neff

[pennycat]

Bj.
Thank you for your detail explanation that means this kind of doubling are not consider as variety or error even you see some of other coins the doubling
look identical. They just happening on a different occasions?
Pennycat.

[Az Slot]

First coin is a 2000 Bahamas twenty five cent coin.

[Az Slot]

1963 Canada 10 cent coin..

[Az Slot]

I Have a couple of German Coins also...
Would these be considered broadstrikes or a collar type of error not to mention the die cracks?

#1: 1847B 1 Pfennig
#2: 1875B 1 Pfennig- I can't get any good pics of this one however the discoloration comes through as a red or copper bright color, on both sides.

[Az Slot]

Mexician 100.00 coin not sure of date. I have more pics of this one if needed.

Thank You,
Mary

[diamond]

A shot of the whole coin would be beneficial. As things stand, I don't know if I'm looking at wear, a filled die, or both.

[diamond]

This might just be part of the normal rim design. Try to obtain a larger sample for comparison purposes.

[Az Slot]

This might just be part of the normal rim design. Try to obtain a larger sample for comparison purposes.

I can not get a good pic of this coin see if these help any...