What is the chance? 1953 D rosie

[Ronald]

Hello,

What is the chance that this 1953 D Roosevelt dime has a1952 reverse, mms-002 and be 1952 D RPM-001?
thank you in advance.



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[MintErrors]

That would mean they left the reverse working die in the minting press andjust changed out the obverse die? I do not know if that would be standard practice, let alone the fact that this theory would have minted close to a half million dimes, so where are the rest ?

In my opinion, that's a bit of a stretch, a low probability.

You would have to match up the mint mark exactly to the rpm in question by doing an overlay.

[Ronald]

That would mean they left the reverse working die in the minting press andjust changed out the obverse die? I do not know if that would be standard practice, let alone the fact that this theory would have minted close to a half million dimes, so where are the rest ?

In my opinion, that's a bit of a stretch, a low probability.

You would have to match up the mint mark exactly to the rpm in question by doing an overlay.

Thanks Gary,
I agree not very probable, but not impossible.
I was in variety vista to compare for possible RPM and did not see the exact mms-003 on this coin. So I opened up 1952 and it was much closer.
I guess a chipped die could have created the appearance.
As far as where are the rest, I don’t know, looking for RPMs on dimes is a challenge in its own right. I do not know how many search Roosevelt dimes. I happened on to this while looking in the scope to verify the date and mm to upgrade a hole in the Whitman.

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[occnumis2021]

That would mean they left the reverse working die in the minting press andjust changed out the obverse die? I do not know if that would be standard practice, let alone the fact that this theory would have minted close to a half million dimes, so where are the rest ?

In my opinion, that's a bit of a stretch, a low probability.

You would have to match up the mint mark exactly to the rpm in question by doing an overlay.

now you make me wonder about having mixed obv/rev dies in the machine vs rehubbings with very little detail from prior year leftover. there is definately a good handfull of these things throughout numis. just commenting, now i'll move along.

as for the OP, does your MM look anything like this? note the position bottom and right and the serifs.

http://www.varietyvista.com/07%20Roosevelt%20Dimes/RPM%20Detail%20Files/1952DRPM001.htm

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[Ronald]

now you make me wonder about having mixed obv/rev dies in the machine vs rehubbings with very little detail from prior year leftover. there is definately a good handfull of these things throughout numis. just commenting, now i'll move along.

as for the OP, does your MM look anything like this? note the position bottom and right and the serifs.

http://www.varietyvista.com/07%20Roosevelt%20Dimes/RPM%20Detail%20Files/1952DRPM001.htm

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Hello,
thanks for the response.
I do not have the macro ability to magnify the mm picture as nicely as that from variety vista that you have posted.
I will say no it does not resemble that picture exactly, but similar, but it does not match this 1953 mms-003 either.

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It does look a lot like this
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mms-002 from the vista site, but with other rpm possibilities and a possible LDS chip/filled D


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Sorry about the pixelated screen shot, it is my only resource.
This coin is ms 60/63 and the lighting reflection or lack of light controls photo quickly.

[occnumis2021]

Hello,
thanks for the response.
I do not have the macro ability to magnify the mm picture as nicely as that from variety vista that you have posted.
I will say no it does not resemble that picture exactly, but similar, but it does not match this 1953 mms-003 either.

It does look a lot like this
Sorry about the pixelated screen shot, it is my only resource.
This coin is ms 60/63 and the lighting reflection or lack of light controls photo quickly.

thinking about it a bit more and expanding on what MintError said, if you are truly serious about doing these kind of things, it is best to get a folder on your pc or whatever you use and start d/l images into it and do comps. i've done this hundreds of times and w/o having a lot of coins avail is just simply the next best option.

i have no reason to (or not to) believe this coin has a rev other than what is intended or has been rehubbed but if you do, that would be the first thing to do if you don't actual examples to comp and you'll probably need several images and/or coins, for verification, thoroughness and the fact it is an uphill battle/study.

[Ronald]

thinking about it a bit more and expanding on what MintError said, if you are truly serious about doing these kind of things, it is best to get a folder on your pc or whatever you use and start d/l images into it and do comps. i've done this hundreds of times and w/o having a lot of coins avail is just simply the next best option.

i have no reason to (or not to) believe this coin has a rev other than what is intended or has been rehubbed but if you do, that would be the first thing to do if you don't actual examples to comp and you'll probably need several images and/or coins, for verification, thoroughness and the fact it is an uphill battle/study.

Thanks, I appreciate the response.
im an old man, not looking to spend a lot of time looking for RPMs. Especially in roseys.
this reminds me of a saying an old friend of mine use to say concerning his employment status.
” I was hunting rabbits when I found this job, they said they were hiring, but they never did say I had to work”
my point is, as to my OP, the question was what is the chance. Simple question, yes?
Having seen what seems to be almost deliberate double die coins, and coins with rev of this or rev that,
probability can be chucked to the wind and possibility a proven.
thanks, the possibility has been documented.