2015 NY Quarter

[Conan62]

VDDR-003 3-R-VIII? Thank you for your expertise.

http://doubleddie.com/2182737.html

[Conan62]

image_48733.jpg image_48734.jpg Additional photos

[occnumis2021]

you posted all those images but none of the primary diagnostic?

http://varietyvista.com/09e%20WQ%20Vol%205%20ATB/DDRs%202015P%20NY%20quarter.htm

[Conan62]

I apologize I’m new to this forum, please explain what diagnostics are required, I will make sure I include them next post. I believe you are referring to what areas of the coin I found doubled?

[occnumis2021]

I apologize I’m new to this forum, please explain what diagnostics are required, I will make sure I include them next post. I believe you are referring to what areas of the coin I found doubled?

no need to apologize. i was just asking.

when it comes to a lot of ddo/ddr, especially on modern quarters, the ddo/ddr or whatever don't really deviate from specific areas too much. that being said, you posted a quarter with a ton of MD (machine doubling or erosion) but none of the one area that quarter is known for having doubling at.

it is usually why i ask what resources ppl are using as the current listings can be a guide but not 100%.as to where doubling is usually found on a particular year/mm.

when you visit the link i posted above, what is the first area of the coin you see?

[Conan62]

The sword. As well as the other resource. There is some wording doubled on the other resource. I was under the impression that it was something that just wasn’t listed. It’s difficult to follow one resource when so many of them are different. With this coin almost the entire reverse in doubled either lightly or heavily. I realize it’s hard to view through pictures. What is your opinion based on what you can see. Disregarding the resources.

[occnumis2021]

The sword. As well as the other resource. There is some wording doubled on the other resource. I was under the impression that it was something that just wasn’t listed. It’s difficult to follow one resource when so many of them are different. With this coin almost the entire reverse in doubled either lightly or heavily. I realize it’s hard to view through pictures. What is your opinion based on what you can see. Disregarding the resources.

to answer your questrion, read the post(s) by MintErrors in this thread - https://board.conecaonline.org/forum...in-from-future

i'm perusing some of my older posts, for various reasons. usually find good/useful info in them and even sometimes enjoyable lol

[occnumis2021]

. I was under the impression that it was something that just wasn’t listed. It’s difficult to follow one resource when so many of them are different. .

i want to address this in a separate post.

you will find this all thorughout numismatics and to some degree the TPGs, that different and sometimes conflicting opinions surface. it is just life on this planet. we don't always agree, even experts. i'm sure you've ran into that in your profession(s).

if you truly want to learn and become better at identifying coin varieties and errors, the FIRST place to start is either talking with dealers at shows/shops AND looking at high-quality images online of them and a LOT of them. you will see some basic patterns and tendencies emerge.

[Conan62]

Makes sense. I hope to one day be able to make my own decisions based on what I see. The images I see on the resource websites conflict, few are high-quality and magnified. I have read listings that state “doubling here or there”, “ Light spread here or there” yet the pictures associated do not correlate with the data. I realize this industry is made up of mostly volunteers who graciously provide their time and expertise so I will not complain. I appreciate any little bit I get. I will continue to do my due diligence prior to reaching out.
There is one Show coming up here in Orlando July 13, Florida Numismatics assoc. I plan to attend. I wish there were more.
Thank you again

[occnumis2021]

Makes sense. I hope to one day be able to make my own decisions based on what I see. The images I see on the resource websites conflict, few are high-quality and magnified. I have read listings that state “doubling here or there”, “ Light spread here or there” yet the pictures associated do not correlate with the data. I realize this industry is made up of mostly volunteers who graciously provide their time and expertise so I will not complain. I appreciate any little bit I get. I will continue to do my due diligence prior to reaching out.
There is one Show coming up here in Orlando July 13, Florida Numismatics assoc. I plan to attend. I wish there were more.
Thank you again

be sure to ask the show organizers for any info for other shows in the area. idk how things are these days but i always had good results from that effort.

please feel free to share any incosistent/conflicting data on a site you see, perhaps in general forum. idk of any of the pros that wouldn't "fix" any errant info/data if it were presented to them but you can post it so we can pre-screen it so as not to waste their time. it is a common courtesy protocol many sites use these days.

happy hunting!

[MintErrors]

Makes sense. I hope to one day be able to make my own decisions based on what I see. The images I see on the resource websites conflict, few are high-quality and magnified. I have read listings that state “doubling here or there”, “ Light spread here or there” yet the pictures associated do not correlate with the data. I realize this industry is made up of mostly volunteers who graciously provide their time and expertise so I will not complain. I appreciate any little bit I get. I will continue to do my due diligence prior to reaching out.
There is one Show coming up here in Orlando July 13, Florida Numismatics assoc. I plan to attend. I wish there were more.
Thank you again

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In my opinion, some get ruffled feathers over some of the variety descriptions and the amount of hub doubling presented. Then, I have sent in coins to get attributed by some one other than myself and they come back "minor" when they show separation and are clearly a wider spread.

As far as photos go for varieties, some of the better ones are on
conecaonline.info
Doubleddie.com
Coppercoins.com (click on the EDS, MDS or LDS links)

I agree with your comment on some of the quality could be better. Some photos were taken quite a while ago, and technology was not the best. But it's not an excuse for everything. Photos DO take some time to find that acceptable moment. People may get frustrated and just give a photo that should be close enough, but may be not the best.
One thing many people do not account for is how they have their monitors or displays set up. They should be neutral and balanced, so no matter how the person viewing has their monitor set up (brightness/contrast, etc) it should fall in an acceptable range.

The Fun coin show typically has 600 or so tables. Find a process to revisit tables if you need to either by writing down the name of the dealer and coin seen or other method. It will cut down on confusion. This show is on one of my friends bucket list and we will attend it in the future, as long as their is no schedule conflicts.

[MintErrors]

I'll mention this once more to anyone reading this. When attributors document doubled dies or other varieties, they show the affected areas. The working dies are made of steel. They are the culprit with the doubling. With it being in steel, the area with more than one impression (prior to 1996) will not move locations. It's not good practice to assume anything - other than what's presented. That's not a finger pointing, it's pointing out that what you see in photos, is what you should see on the coin in hand almost an exact image ( die states might change the look slightly, but not locations).

The coin presented here is lacking a lot of detail on lower level devices close to the flat field of the coin. Some of it may be slight wear, but I believe it to be die deterioration, which leads to worthless doubling since the die has struck upwards of a hundred of thousand coins or more. Quarter working dies tend to strike somewhere near 325,000 coins before being removed from service. This one working die that struck this coin may have been close to the higher end.