2 Questions on TRAILS/WAVY STEPS

[Novicetoerr]

Us again on the above interesting variety...

1. Can we assume that the columns' fluting lines are indententions (and can
not be a raised image)?

2. Being NVTEs, we're trying to find ways to help us ease identification and
confirmation of the above variety images. From the >500 documented
trails/steps, aside from them, have you observed any common
charactertistics of the coins, say for example (only)...Other doubling(MDD
or DD) is present? Or specific damage in an specific area of the coin?
Double struck? Blistrered? If there is, we can use it as a verification
marker that indeed, we found a trail die...or vice versa.


Thank you all again.
NVTEs

[3¢nicker]

as far as what it sounds like you might have found i can't really say, i can't understand without at least pictures. the publications of Mr. Neff (wavysteps) do include the markers that you are talking about. blistering i don't think can be considered a die marker because typically that is a currosion or a realease of gas that happens over time. mdd's happen during the striking process and not associated with the die itself. dd's do and are added with the markers because for that single die, every coin that comes from this one will have this anomoly. if you think you have found a new die, which i have here and there, it may be difficult to label the markers you see without help, i have come across this as well

i don't think i have ever seen a trail/wavystep that was indented (you may be seeing die scrapes)

[Novicetoerr]

Hi and thanks for the response.

1. My mistake. My question was supposed to be the other way around (wavy steps as indentations?), and the answer is YES... but an ODDITY, as discussed in one of BJ's trail die sections.
2. Reading from your answer, there is no commonalities.

[Novicetoerr]

Trail Meets Fluting Line? ....Corrected resend

Hi and thanks for the response.

1. My mistake. My question was supposed to be the other way around (wavy steps as indentations?), and the answer is YES... but an ODDITY, as discussed in one of BJ's trail die sections.
2. Reading from your answer, there is no commonalities.


Have another clarification on the attached 2000-D photo.
Are they trail and fluting line?

Thanks!
NVTEs

[wavysteps]

The picture that you show seems to be die scrapes. Trails originate from a design element; those lines seemingly do not.

The part concerning the indented fluting line extensions. This happens only on working hubs that are affected with trails.

BJ Neff

[3¢nicker]

your terminology was off concerning trail and fluting as bj stated about trails. if i am correct fluting is when the design of the column bases "flows" or trails into the design of the steps below them (and are a way of measuring the strength of the trail?) my apologies bj

[3¢nicker]

furthermore the lines in your picture,
if upon close examination the lines show no signs of being raised or incused, it is very possible for the lines mearly made when the blank sheets are rolled out before the planchets are cut out

[Novicetoerr]

Thank you all again. Learning more on this interesting variety.

Thank you and regards,
NVTEs