JD Varieties Question

[No_Ragrets]

Before I go through the hoops of trying to upload more images without figuring out how to compress them to an appropriate size, I thought I would put up a simple request for information first. This is information that I simply can not find online, with the exception of one book (that's somewhere around $125) that goes into some detail of my request. So, to cut to the meat of this post...

Does anyone here happen to have knowledge or experience in recognizing/identifying JD varieties on coins? To be more specific, I have an 1883 V nickel (with cents) in my type set album that looks far better than it's next-door neighbor, the 1883 V nickel (without cents) and I started to wonder if that coin is a proof specimen. After some research online, I saw that there are JD varieties for the 1883 proof nickel, but I can not find anything describing what those varieties actually entail.

If anyone here could share any information regarding these JD varieties (bonus points for a link to said information) I would send you one authentic virtual high-five straight from my heart. No postage required and no strings attached! Thank you for your time, and have a great evening!

[Paddy54]

20220823_065757.jpgFirst of all the mint over the years repurposed, reused, reworked ,and also used proof dies to strike mint state coins. There are several series that ,the proof dies were placed into service to mint MS coins.
the last of the Buffalo nickels struck on San Francisco mint dies reworked and a D stamped over the S in some cases .
However very hard to distinguish as lets say you just punched out 5000 proof dimes.
that die still fresh still squared edges begins punching out coins. True not on a proof blank ....but with fresh polished dies... bingo....the possibility of a specimen that looks proof but is actually mint struck with proof dies.
the images are of a 3 cent silver that has all the correct pups to make it a proof specimen....but is it? You tell me as again the mint banged out more mint strikes using this die marriage.

as for Shield and Liberty nickels the complete guide by Gloria Peters & Cynthia Mohan is the go sorce on these series.

* the 1861 U.S. 3 cent proof mintage 1000 * so understand if you find an 1861 3 cent pc. With the clash in the lll is it real? Or is it Memorex? Oh yes its a real us coin but proof or ms ?
understand at the price point paid I couldn't pay for it fast enough!
even holed.... its still great looking as well a neat pc. Of us history.

[No_Ragrets]

Crazy20220823_065757.jpgFirst of all the mint over the years repurposed, reused, reworked ,and also used proof dies to strike mint state coins. There are several series that ,the proof dies were placed into service to mint MS coins.
the last of the Buffalo nickels struck on San Francisco mint dies reworked and a D stamped over the S in some cases .
However very hard to distinguish as lets say you just punched out 5000 proof dimes.
that die still fresh still squared edges begins punching out coins. True not on a proof blank ....but with fresh polished dies... bingo....the possibility of a specimen that looks proof but is actually mint struck with proof dies.
the images are of a 3 cent silver that has all the correct pups to make it a proof specimen....but is it? You tell me as again the mint banged out more mint strikes using this die marriage.

Does that book happen to have information on the 1883 Liberty nickel? I know there are several volumes available, and I believe the information I need is in volume 2, but I'm happy to see that you've got information to share! From what I've read so far and from what you are confirming, the US mint definitely repurposed some of their "spent dies" to use for future coinage. I will, someday soon hopefully, get some pictures and maybe a video of my 1883 V nickels. I like having the two of them side by side in my type set because how often does the mint change things mid-year? But the "with cents" is quite the beauty, and I paid a heft sum for it. It very well may be a proof or, as you're describing, a MS coin struck on proof dies.

[Paddy54]

The 3 cent silver true its holed paid <30$ it was from jewelry.. let me research more and see what I can find. Do you have a breen encyclopedia?

[Paddy54]

I should get you hooked on the 1938 D buffalo nickel...D , DD, D D S, DDDS, fun set can be done cheaply too243493_2_-02~2-01.jpeg

[Paddy54]

Here's a 1866 shield nickel shows lathe lines from being reworked. Look at the rev buffalo I posted look at "America " see the lines? Used to rework the die.

[No_Ragrets]

The 3 cent silver true its holed paid <30$ it was from jewelry.. let me research more and see what I can find. Do you have a breen encyclopedia?

Unfortunately, I do not currently have that book. I've got the 2024 Mega Redbook (a Christmas gift from my wife) but that is about it as far as books go. Naturally, that excludes my coin albums... simply referencing informational books here. I can't stomach paying that much for a book that I would look at only a few times for confirmation of particular varieties. For instance, just for one coin... it would be cheaper for me to send it in for PCGS for grading / certification / and variety identification than if I were to just buy that book for that one coin. Which ultimately leads me here!

[No_Ragrets]

Here's a 1866 shield nickel shows lathe lines from being reworked. Look at the rev buffalo I posted look at "America " see the lines? Used to rework the die.

That is next on my list of upgrades for my type set actually. My LCS had a very nice looking coin for sale recently, I just hope it's still there when I stop by again. This time of year is difficult to justify spending as much as I do on coins. I've got a wife and a teenager that I need to tend to, as well, so my pickups get less frequent and with less wow-factor to them

[Paddy54]

Here ya go

[No_Ragrets]

Here ya go

Was that all that was mentioned as to the "JD varieties" for the proof coins for that year? I wholeheartedly appreciate the sharing of information, but if that's all that was in that book regarding these varieties, you can color me shocked at the result. But please don't take that as a slight against you! I have no clue what is contained in that book and I've got a very narrow section of information I'm seeking, so any help is certainly appreciated! Is there further information regarding the specific JD varieties on proof 1883 nickels (with cents) in that book or is that the bulk of details it contains? Thank you for your help, too!

[Paddy54]

Should I find other information ill pass it on... no worries and your very welcome I love finding the answers

[MintErrors]

I will ask the question..... why does it matter if it's a JD variety ? I have the Fletcher book, and 1883 does have one proof listed in the varieties, but it's a repunching of the East on the inside of the upper curl.

Fletcher seems not to mention JD varieties, neither does
http://shieldnickels.net/

[MintErrors]

Before I go through the hoops of trying to upload more images without figuring out how to compress them to an appropriate size, I thought I would put up a simple request for information first.

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In my opinion, it's pretty simple.
Open up your favorite photo editor.
You should be able to resize the photos like occnumis2021 mentioned.
All you should have to do is change one of the numbers in the resize boxes, the other will change automatically IF you have the keep aspect ratio box checked. Some programs do that automatically.
1000 pixels is a decent size for this forum.

Make sure they are saved as a JPG and almost always they will be lower than the 2mb maximum allowed here. If your doing it all via the phone, cropping down the photo by removing unnecessary background is key. Most apps a,low you to grab the outer area of the photo and make the area smaller.

I am pretty sure there are video tutorials on how to reduce the pixel size or, reduce size of photos from your type of phone.

[No_Ragrets]

I will ask the question..... why does it matter if it's a JD variety ? I have the Fletcher book, and 1883 does have one proof listed in the varieties, but it's a repunching of the East on the inside of the upper curl.

Fletcher seems not to mention JD varieties, neither does
http://shieldnickels.net/

It's the only thing I could think of for identification purposes. If this coin has one of these JD varieties, then I would assume it to be a proof coins. I'm simply trying a process of elimination, although I might be taking the more difficult route to get a result.

This nickel should be relatively easy to get full-size pictures of uploaded here from my scope, as I can just extend the tower higher to get more distance and then crop it down to size.

The paint app on my laptop is actually paint 3D, and it seems that it doesn't simply allow reducing pixels without reducing the viewing window. I'll get back on it later today and see what I can discover.

[occnumis2021]

The paint app on my laptop is actually paint 3D, and it seems that it doesn't simply allow reducing pixels without reducing the viewing window. I'll get back on it later today and see what I can discover.

try searching for just paint. i'm pretty sure but not 100% positive the modern Win10/11 OS that have P3D still have MSP as well but you may have to dig to find it.

if we ever lose ms paint, notepad etc, the old basic progs, i hope the people protest vehemently. lol

photoscape has a nice quick resize option that gives about the same results as ms paint. (this "simple" prog has the added benefit of round cropping)

paint.net (a little brother to photoshop/lightroom/elements/apache/gimp etc) is pretty popular but get a bit more cumbersome to use because of the myriad options but i use all 3 progs i've mentioned for one reason or another.

all this can be done on phones i'm sure but it will take a MUCH more deliberate effort for those unfamiliar, like me, so i just us a pc and call it a day.