DDO-003 1982D 1c Large date 2 over Small date 2

[jacobgill2290]

I could be wrong ; but I believe I found a 1982D 1c Large date with a Large date 2; that over struck a 2 that's generally associated with the 1982D small date. It has what I would describe as very strong doubling made from the Hub itself and NOT from machine doubling. Anyway, Let me know what you think.

[MintErrors]

Where did you find this "DDO-003" listed ? Its not on variety vista nor coppercoins. Doubleddie.com has a A DDO-003 but the description does not have the date as a source of the doubling.

In my opinion, even back as far as 1970 and 1960, the U S Mint has not done a small date/large date on a single digit. Those were complete dates. Its been close to 44 years and no others have been documented. All Lincoln cent working dies are made from the same working hub. Each working die produces somewhere near 1 million strikes. So this would have been found and documented a long time ago.

For the 1982 cents, the big difference is the design of the 8 as well as the 2. The 8 shows no signs of having two different 8s on the coin. The 9 would be slightly different as well.

The coin looks circulated so its a pure SWAG what could have happened to the digit. About a dozen possibilities come to mind but I dont have the time to list and explain them all.

One way to determine if your coin is what you say it is, is to create a photo overlay. Attempt to line up both the small and large date photos. It would have to be very precise, exact same size and ensure some other devices on the coin line up as well as the mint mark since its on the same working die.

[jacobgill2290]

I used the classIII description from the coneca website as way to describe what type of error I believe this to be. Maybe I used the term under the incorrect circumstances? My apologies if this is the case, I just saw it as an accurate description of the series of events that caused this coin to be the way it is.

Nevertheless, Thank you for your reply, Ill see what i can do about an overlay.... I just ordered an actual digital microscope, which should yield better pictures. These were taken with a magnifying glass held up to my phone camera lens lol, which was not an easy task to do

Thanks, Jake.

[MintErrors]

In my opinion, That's a Class number and not a DDO number. Totally different pieces of information. Telling people what class a coin is generally acceptable in the community.

Putting a random DDO number - which is usually done by attributors to document known doubled dies..... can ruffle a LOT of feathers. I suggest refraining from "assigning" a doubled die number in the future.

Now, if you have a coin in hand and you believe it is a DDO which looks like a documented match from a known example on conecaonline.info , varietyvista.com , doubleddie.com , coppercoins.com or another well known site, then by all means reference the website and the known DDO number. The descriptions at most of these sites pinpoint the area of doubling, markers/pickup points, or position of the mint mark in reference to the date (1989 and prior).

In my signature block, I have an article on how to take some decent photos with a cell phone.