1982-P Small Date Zinc Lincol cent - Need your further comments

[Novicetoerr]

Hello to ALL again and Happy Happy Holidays!!!!
We're back!!! We sure did miss you all!

Have located this 1982-P Small Date Zn Lincoln Cent (we misplaced due to Hurricane Ike disaster) which we originally posted last August with feedbacks to be potentially DDR.

Have re-reposted for your feedback if both DDO and DDR. Spreads and notchings can be observed in the digits and letters.

Have since been planning to submit this for CONECA Attribution but Ike struck us. Will submit upon receipt of your informative comments.

Thank you All again!

NVTE's

[diamond]

I don't see any split serifs or furrowing of letters/numbers. In short, I see no evidence of a doubled die.

[Novicetoerr]

Missed to include this DDR(?) Image of 'STATE' in USA

Hello All,

Missed to include the attached image.

Thanks again!
NVTE's

[Novicetoerr]

Hi Mike!

Thanks for the quick feedback. Will try to re-take clearer photos of if we see
splits.

Thaks,
NVTE's

[diamond]

I still see no evidence of a doubled die. The variety experts on this forum can certainly correct me if my untutored eye has missed something.

[wavysteps]

Like Mike says, I just do not see any evidence to support a doubled die. There does appear to be some sort of doubling and it is a form of machine doubling. This is seen as an indent on some of the lops of the letters, however, that is a rather common occurance and is somertimes confused with a doubled die.

BJ Neff

[Novicetoerr]

Hello again and thanks, too BJ!

Have attached other angled/exposure shots to highlight what seem to be notchings. Can they be true doubled die notchings or otherwise?

Thanks for your further advice.
NVTE's

[Jamez]

Man I am just not seeing what you are I guess. I see nothing that would lead me towards a DD.

[jazzcoins]

I don't think this is a doubled die at all. The coin ihas so much die errosion extreme wear and there are signs of machine doubling and if you notice the notching exstends through the letters on the top.

I have to say i do see a form of notching but not like a doubled die would indicate ,they look more like splits or hits within in the top portions of the letters I also notice a split to the right of the R

I indicated that notching is exstending through the letter with red arrows and machine doubling

jazzcoins Joe

[Novicetoerr]

Thanks Jim.

Thanks, Joe for trying to help clarify what we thought to be true DD notchings. Being new, just learned a new term "splits" which you mentioned caused by machine which I think caused all our suspected DDO notchings; and some of our suspected DDR notchings (coupled with MDDs).

With above info, will go back and further re-look at our other suspected DDR (no more DDO) doublings in this coin; and may come back to ask your helpful
feedback again.

Thanks!
Us all NVTE's.

[Novicetoerr]

Hello ALL again. Just wanting to quickly follow-up...

Was able to retrieve our previous (August) post of this same coin (which we misplaced then recovered). This was affirmed to be true DDR with the attached photos of notchings.

Please help advice if a real potential DDR .

Thank you ALL!
NVTE's

[jazzcoins]

Thanks Jim.

Thanks, Joe for trying to help clarify what we thought to be true DD notchings. Being new, just learned a new term "splits" which you mentioned caused by machine which I think caused all our suspected DDO notchings; and some of our suspected DDR notchings (coupled with MDDs).

With above info, will go back and further re-look at our other suspected DDR (no more DDO) doublings in this coin; and may come back to ask your helpful
feedback again.

Thanks!
Us all NVTE's.

I just want to clarify i didn't say the manchine doubling caused those splits and ther'es no such term as splits. I don't want to give you false terminolgy and confuse you.

What i was implying is the splits are going into the letters I don't no exactly what caused that, but they are not notches as i indicate, because you also have them on the rigth side of the letter R some kind of damage

I presume maybe from the servere die erossion but not quite sure, and as I said in my earlier post, not a doubled die. Glad I can help you


Jazzcoins Joe

[Novicetoerr]

Thanks again.

Should I send for attribution to confirm whether both sides are DD or MDD or
otherwise?

Will await forum's advice. Thanks,
NVTEs