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  • 1959 DDO-002 (stage b)?

    Not really doubting that this is FS-1C-022.3 (102) – what I would like is to know for certain that it is DDO-002 but I should elaborate a little further...

    When I posted an eBay link on the LCR forums about an ANACS slabbed ’83 DDR-007 I wasn’t expecting Dr. Wiles’ response. I actually don’t think anyone did. We all figured it was a mistake on ANACS’s part; there wasn't a DDR die #7! His response was:

    "The serial number indicates this was an early ANACS slab. Therefore they probably took the die number from the original CONECA master listing. Since that listing was provided by JT Stanton, I would assume that JT submitted the coins to ANACS with that number and they put it on the slab for him. The CONECA files were rebuilt beginning in the late 90s. There were many listings which could not be identified and were removed until new specimens could be examined for proper photography. Based on the lousy published photos of DDR-007, it appears to now be listed as DDR-002."

    Now back to my coin - the '59 DDO. I noticed in the CPG vol. 1, 4th edition, FS-022.3 says (4-O-II) i.e. DDO-004 – but there no longer is a die #4 – and now die #2 in the CONECA files states it is FS-022.3, so I am assuming that like the ’83 DDR quandary, the CONECA files were adjusted. My mentoring professor at Yale during grad school always said, “Never assume,” so now I am really just looking to see if what I think is true, is in fact true. I’ll also finally note that at any given time there are multiple eBay auctions that list a 1959 DDO-004 (and a few other varieties I think are now assigned new numbers) for sale.

    Jason Cuvelier

    CONECA
    Lead attributer

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    Hi Jason - This is one of the unforunate problems of all number systems. When a die is found not to be what it was stated as, it is removed from the sytem leaving a blank nuber. In this case, the die numbers were slide down so that die #4 became die #2.

    It can be even more confusing when a die is recognized by one entity and not another; example, the 1956-D Lincoln cent as DDO-001. Some believe this to be a doubled die, while others do not.

    All I can say is to check the latest references for the correct number and hope that they have been updated..

    BJ Neff
    Member of: ANA, CCC, CONECA, Fly-in-club, FUN, NLG & T.E.V.E.C.

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      Jason:
      Your assumption here is correct. Your coin is DDO-002. Unfortunately, this is the major problem with variety slabs. You simply cannot trust them to be accurately attributed. The lone execption are the ICG slabs with the CONECA label. Those coins came through me, so the attribution can be assumed correct. (I do make mistakes, but not very many). The newer ANACS slabs with the DMR number along with the variety number also have come through me. Soon the CONECA name will also be on those slabs and they will have come through me. I am also starting to work with DGS and their signature series and those coins will come through me. Going forward, there are some good options, but anything slabbed prior (except for the ICGs) are suspect. They used old numbering systems, now outdated/non-existent, they made attributions without solid information to back them up. Even PCGS gets some CPG dies wrong.
      CONECA 20th Century Die Variety Attributer

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