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    1959 Pr Franklin DDO

    This is not listed anywhere, so I studied it a long time before I possibly concluded it's a DD not MD. It's got extra thickness with seperation at the top of U in Trust, at the inside loop of the 9, and the top of the 1. The doubling is only on the date and Trust. It just doesn't have that flat shelf-like evidence of MD or ejection doubling in most places. Any thoughts?
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    It looks like it is effecting all sides of the date numbers, is that true? Or am I seeing reflections?
    Most fools think they are only ignorant.
    -- Benjamin Franklin

    CONECA Member
    N-4556

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    • #3
      Sorry but I am not seeing any separation where you say there is. What I do see is evidence of Machine Doubling.

      Many times, machine doubling is confused with die doubling, especially on proof coins where separation is very distinct.
      Lee Lydston

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      • #4
        The doubling is all west and north, not both sides. I just don't see a preponderance of flat shelf-like doubling I would expect for MD. The doubling is clearly raised off the surface, not on the surface.
        Kevin

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        • #5
          Without an in hand examination of the coin, it is hard to say what you have. One other possibility; since all proof coins are double struck, there may have been a slight rotation between the first and second strike to cause the doubling seen.

          BJ Neff
          Member of: ANA, CCC, CONECA, Fly-in-club, FUN, NLG & T.E.V.E.C.

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          • #6
            Looks like Md or die deterioration doubling i don't see no raised round images like doubled dies have
            CA

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jupiterkm1 View Post
              This is not listed anywhere, so I studied it a long time before I possibly concluded it's a DD not MD. It's got extra thickness with seperation at the top of U in Trust, at the inside loop of the 9, and the top of the 1. The doubling is only on the date and Trust. It just doesn't have that flat shelf-like evidence of MD or ejection doubling in most places. Any thoughts?
              Can you post the motto/elpub & the eagle??
              No one right 100% of timesI maybe wrong and will I say, sorry I was wrong

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              • #8
                Here's the motto and the eagle. If the pics aren't conclusive one way or another, I believe I'll send it in anyway for attribution. I have several others I need attributed. I'd rather spend the attribution fee to be sure than give up on something possibly new.
                Kevin
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                • #9
                  I think that if there was any doubling it would show on the two dots in the motto. They seem to be perfectly round to me.
                  Most fools think they are only ignorant.
                  -- Benjamin Franklin

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                  N-4556

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                  • #10
                    from your photo of the eagle I can not tell if the claw are doubled,but the motto maybe.and the 1st set of photos I think it may grade Cameo at Ngc
                    If I had in hand I could tell you more.
                    but if you have it graded add the cost for details it may worth if
                    No one right 100% of timesI maybe wrong and will I say, sorry I was wrong

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