1955-S/S South

[Ray Parkhurst]

I've had these for a while, wondering if anyone has seen this variety before. I have both EDS and MDS examples. Here are pictures of both:

1955-S/S South EDS



1955-S/S South MDS

[hamilton]

I'm not seeing the RPM, very nice photos, what do you use to take them I'm always looking to improve.

[Ray Parkhurst]

1955-S/S South

The RPM is on the bottom of the lower curve.

Photo was taken with a B&L Monozoom7 and Tucsen 3.0MP. Depth of field is just good enough. I should probably do focus stacking but I'm not completely happy with the lighting yet...

I'm not seeing the RPM, very nice photos, what do you use to take them I'm always looking to improve.

[wavysteps]

To be honest, I do not see any notching that would associate these as RPMs. I do agree that your pictures are excellent and that proper lighting is one of the hardest parts of photography.

I would suggest a trip over to Coppercoins.com and see if any of your pictures (or dies) match what they have over there.

BJ Neff

[Ray Parkhurst]

I usually figure that if a variety can't be seen from a straight-on shot that it is too minor to be interested in. But this one seems pretty clear both in-hand and from the pictures, so I don't know why you guys can't see it. Maybe the pictures are not showing up correctly? I will take another shot at an angle tonight, hopefully making it a bit easier to see.

Ray

To be honest, I do not see any notching that would associate these as RPMs. I do agree that your pictures are excellent and that proper lighting is one of the hardest parts of photography.

I would suggest a trip over to Coppercoins.com and see if any of your pictures (or dies) match what they have over there.

BJ Neff

[Ray Parkhurst]

Here's maybe a better picture, taken at an angle to emphasize the RPM. This is the EDS stage. I improved the lighting as well. You should be able to see separation between the mintmarks on the lower curve. I'm working on the EMDS stage now.

To be honest, I do not see any notching that would associate these as RPMs. I do agree that your pictures are excellent and that proper lighting is one of the hardest parts of photography.

I would suggest a trip over to Coppercoins.com and see if any of your pictures (or dies) match what they have over there.

BJ Neff

[wavysteps]

If you look at the tail of the first 5 digit, you will see the same doubling in the same direction. Since the mintmark is applied at a different time than the hubbed date, the chance that both design elements would have the same doubling in the same direction is very unlikely. It is machine doubling that you are seeing on the mint mark.

The absence of a split lower serif and any extra thickness on the lower part of the mint mark also points to this type of doubling and away from being a RPM.

BJ Neff

[Ray Parkhurst]

I'm not sure what you are seeing in the first 5, but there is no strike doubling. Strike doubling is relatively "flat", and this South RPM has a "curve" to it as the extra mintmark gradually merges into the main MM farther up the curve to the right. I also have later die state examples of the RPM that show die wear on the South RPM, which would be impossible if it were strike doubling. Each strike doubled coin would show new "fresh" damage.

There is also an extra "lower tip" on the upper serif, visible in the photos. And there is also a small split in the lower serif that I can't seem to capture but can be seen in-hand.

It's obvious my photos are not doing the job of showing this coin well. Would you be interested in seeing an example in-hand?

Ray

If you look at the tail of the first 5 digit, you will see the same doubling in the same direction. Since the mintmark is applied at a different time than the hubbed date, the chance that both design elements would have the same doubling in the same direction is very unlikely. It is machine doubling that you are seeing on the mint mark.

The absence of a split lower serif and any extra thickness on the lower part of the mint mark also points to this type of doubling and away from being a RPM.

BJ Neff

[errorman]

I don't see any notching also ,it doesn't appear to be a RPM sorry

JIM

[Ray Parkhurst]

The notching didn't show up well in the first photos. The new ones below show the notching on both upper and lower serifs, and perhaps a bit better on the lower curve. It looks like the first punch was South and very slightly rotated CCW from the 2nd (main) punch.

Here's the upper serif in a wide view:



and here's a detail shot:



Here's the lower serif in a wide view:

I don't see any notching also ,it doesn't appear to be a RPM sorry

JIM