Rare 1984 Lincoln D.D.O Double Ear.

[coin-crazy]

Others said ,this doubling is of an early die state. My opinion is that this appears to have triple doubling rather then the normal doubling like other 1984 lincoln in its class. Experts disagree with me but my question is, why do it appear like there is a third ear?

[wavysteps]

While I can assure you that this is in fact 1984P, DDO-001 and that it is a doubled die, I am not sure why you are seeing another ear. Only an in hand examination may answer your question.

There is an outside possibility that you are seeing isolated machine doubling, where one of the images has been flattened by bouncing back into the die making it appear as if it is doubled. The only other explanation is die deterioration doubling and your coin does not appear to be that late a die state. However, that is speculative on my part and without seeing the coin, I cannot confirm if either action took place.

BJ Neff

[coin-crazy]

While I can assure you that this is in fact 1984P, DDO-001 and that it is a doubled die, I am not sure why you are seeing another ear. Only an in hand examination may answer your question.

There is an outside possibility that you are seeing isolated machine doubling, where one of the images has been flattened by bouncing back into the die making it appear as if it is doubled. The only other explanation is die deterioration doubling and your coin does not appear to be that late a die state. However, that is speculative on my part and without seeing the coin, I cannot confirm if either action took place.

BJ Neff

Well thank you for your feedback on this subject. In interesting in seeing pics of an earlier die state.Do you have any pics to share or know any other sites, so I can compare photos?

[Novicetoerr]

Me again.

I have a similar 1984P coin... And I observed at least 5 ears (but I'm not saying DDs) !!!!

However, the coin has another major error which seemed to have been struck by a die of another denomination (haven't looked deeper at the images to ID what tha other denomination is). So the images are heavily scratched, malformed and mixed. But there is still a big room for recognizing the potential ear multiplicity.

I can only depend on my visual recognition when I ID'ed the 5 ears. Others having the expert's knowledge on production materials/processes, will enable
more intelligent identification.

I have taken similar photo angles as Coin Crazy's photos, so that more visible comparisons can be made despite the not so good images.

I also have a similar 1984 D, with similar ear multiplicity. Will post when feedbacks are received this.


Thanks!
NVTE

[NearDateHound]

The extra ears as marked seem more like deep scratches from damage to it post-mint than anything. The repetition on the bottom looks like it might have been made by something similar to the scratches near the shoulder. A little hard to tell with all of the other damage on this coin. I'll wait for the more seasoned folks to weigh in.

[wavysteps]

I would suggest trying LCR ( http://www.lincolncentresource.com/d...s/1984ddo.html ) or Coppercoins.com for pictures.

BJ Neff

[coin-crazy]

I would suggest trying LCR ( http://www.lincolncentresource.com/d...s/1984ddo.html ) or Coppercoins.com for pictures.

BJ Neff

Thank you.. But I looked at all those sites .And
there is nothing mentioned if those are early die states or later?So the one from lincolncentresouce, is from an early die state??

[coin-crazy]

If anybody on here can lead me to seeing a 1984 lincoln double ear with early die states it will be helpful.Thank you..

[jcuve]

I have studied this DDO, there is only one ear. Maybe you are misidentifying details within the hair as being another ear or have an example with MD as BJ suggested.

This is EDS:

[coin-crazy]

I have studied this DDO, there is only one ear. Maybe you are misidentifying details within the hair as being another ear or have an example with MD as BJ suggested.

This is EDS:

Thank you very much --->Jcuve.. Im a little puzzled but making sense of it all slowly.. I want to know do early die states seek a higher price?

[jcuve]

Thank you very much --->Jcuve.. Im a little puzzled but making sense of it all slowly.. I want to know do early die states seek a higher price?

I do not recall it making a difference being the DDO barely went to EMDS. Usually die state doesn't make a big difference in price unless the die goes to LDS or VLDS and the doubling starts to be indiscernible. Even then sometimes it just doesn't matter to most collectors.

The '84 DDO has not been selling well lately. Good time to buy, bad time to sell.

[coin-crazy]

I do not recall it making a difference being the DDO barely went to EMDS. Usually die state doesn't make a big difference in price unless the die goes to LDS or VLDS and the doubling starts to be indiscernible. Even then sometimes it just doesn't matter to most collectors.

The '84 DDO has not been selling well lately. Good time to buy, bad time to sell.

So there most be 84 D.D.O findings left and right? I didnt see any for sale lately have you? I thought this kind of doubling was rare, and the coin hard to find. Is there something Im missing here?

[jcuve]

They are rare and desirable. I just keep seeing them on eBay and the prices are below where they were two years ago.

[coin-crazy]

They are rare and desirable. I just keep seeing them on eBay and the prices are below where they were two years ago.

Well thank you again. Very helpful info...

[Baseball Ed]

The pix here show a doubled ear, i have found two