2005-D Buffalo 5c Detatched Leg?

[ilikeikes]

I recently bought online a few of the so-called "Detatched Leg" Buffalo nickles...2 of the Ultra Detatched, which really hang by a thread, P mint coins, and, a D-Mint one, which was abraded a bit, but not as much as the ultra's...apparently, the D-Mint coins are harder to find, and, from what I hear, never show the ultra form, just a minor variation of the theme, with less detatchment, but, noticible when found...searching nickel rolls today, I found this 2005-D, and, it seems to be a good one, as far as labeling it a "Detached Leg" Variety....what do you think? First pic is a gem BU normal buffalo, 2nd is my find, 3rd an ultra-detached from my purchase. My find today actually looks better than the one I bought, with more abrading. I see the tpg's label ALL as "Detached Leg", with no "ultra" listed...does anyone know if they plan to differentiate the 2 types, and, what are the guidelines? Seems the "Ultra's" deserve a class of their own.
Thanks
Cal Goddard

[wavysteps]

The reason behind these detached legs are the abrading or removal of a die clash for the most part. The heavier the die clash, the heavier the abrasion and the more detached the leg becomes.

I was able to do a comparison of dies with a die clash and the same die with the die clash removed. This is the link to those coins:

http://maddieclashes.com/ADC-5c-2005-01.html

As to one being called "ultra", I have a feeling that is just a subjective name being given to enhance the error type.

BJ Neff

[diamond]

I'm not sure why intentional die abrasion should be any more interesting or desirable simply because it's acquired a nickname. I confess I haven't followed pricing trends or listing trends for these abraded dies.

[rascal]

I recently bought online a few of the so-called "Detatched Leg" Buffalo nickles...2 of the Ultra Detatched, which really hang by a thread, P mint coins, and, a D-Mint one, which was abraded a bit, but not as much as the ultra's...apparently, the D-Mint coins are harder to find, and, from what I hear, never show the ultra form, just a minor variation of the theme, with less detatchment, but, noticible when found...searching nickel rolls today, I found this 2005-D, and, it seems to be a good one, as far as labeling it a "Detached Leg" Variety....what do you think? First pic is a gem BU normal buffalo, 2nd is my find, 3rd an ultra-detached from my purchase. My find today actually looks better than the one I bought, with more abrading. I see the tpg's label ALL as "Detached Leg", with no "ultra" listed...does anyone know if they plan to differentiate the 2 types, and, what are the guidelines? Seems the "Ultra's" deserve a class of their own.
Thanks
Cal Goddard

I am the one that nicknamed the detached leg bison coins the ULTRA detached leg. I did this so folks could tell them from the lesser types now folks on Ebay are using this name on the lesser type det. leg. The way to tell for sure if you have what we are calling the ULTRA is to look at the E in e pluribus unum. on the ultra det. legs every one of them have a raised trail of the E in front of the E that makes the E look like it has been slid across the coin. The ULTRA det. leg coins are fairley hard to get because none of them were in the regular issue coins that went to the banks.I keep hoping someone will assign die numbers for these det. leg coins so the grading companies can know the die # to label them with.