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1959D Lincoln Cent can this be real DOUBLED EAR???

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  • 1959D Lincoln Cent can this be real DOUBLED EAR???

    Hello ALL again,


    Can this be real and can be a rare find???


    Thanks,
    NVTE
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  • #2
    Post strike damage.

    BJ Neff
    Member of: ANA, CCC, CONECA, Fly-in-club, FUN, NLG & T.E.V.E.C.

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    • #3
      Yep, post mint damage.
      Most fools think they are only ignorant.
      -- Benjamin Franklin

      CONECA Member
      N-4556

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      • #4
        Thanks both for the quick feedbacks.

        Photos "seemed" to show scooped metal from bottom up but may actually
        not??? The raised metal is like a small blown flat bubble with smooth surface and no rough edges. Will try to retake clearer pictures.

        Also can you comment the hilited 2ndary beard? And the 2ndary chin
        which align to the hilited 2ndary lobe?


        Thanks again.
        NVTE

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        • #5
          Over time and continued use the sharp edges would have smoothed. The gouge next to the lump of metal leads me to believe it is not created at the mint. Nice pictures.
          Most fools think they are only ignorant.
          -- Benjamin Franklin

          CONECA Member
          N-4556

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          • #6
            Have attached additional photos with my additional analogy.
            Looks like tilted doubling.


            Let me know further comments after viewing.
            Thanks again,
            NVTE
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            • #7
              This example is like the others in that the supposed doubling is improbably too far away and there are so many other obvious explanations that it is mind-boggling.
              Last edited by jcuve; 02-24-2011, 01:02 AM.
              Jason Cuvelier

              CONECA
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              • #8
                It's PMD. Plain and simple.

                I just don't understand why you blatantly ignore the expertise of others and then continue to search for justification for what "you think" you are seeing?

                My experience has always been that if I have to imagine something or justify what I think I'm seeing, then its just not there. Finding this stuff doesn't require a Sherlock Holmes degree in logic. Just a basic understanding of how dies are made and then what happens to coins in the circulation pool.

                Your coin has a conveniently placed gouge on it that has been smoothed over from continuous circulation. Its not a doubled ear. Accept it.
                Lee Lydston

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                • #9
                  First of all, you're making a simple mechanical inspection into a rocket science. You always think you're right, but just stubborn and closed minded.

                  I'm testing your knowlege and they're nothere.

                  NVTE

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Novicetoerr View Post
                    First of all, you're making a simple mechanical inspection into a rocket science. You always think you're right, but just stubborn and closed minded.

                    I'm testing your knowlege and they're nothere.

                    NVTE
                    NVTE you're correct, error and variety analysis isn't rocket science, rather one of a logical set of feasible probabilities dealing with a finite set of factors to explain something seen on a small piece of metal. We make deductions based on evidence seen in hand or in a photograph from our experience and mental ability to recreate these known forces and mechanical process. We cannot prove them as we were not there when the coins were created nor can we be there as the Mint would not allow it.

                    But all that said I must add that one can only really question another person's knowledge if the person asking the question understands what is involved. If you understood the mechanical issues involved you would see the improbable nature of many of your threads.

                    As a professional and a moderator I caution all parties involved with the tone of any responses as I do not want to see them be overly pointed or personal. Thanks you.
                    Jason Cuvelier

                    CONECA
                    Lead attributer

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                    • #11
                      to novicerror

                      NOVICTERROR the other folks on here are telling you the truth. Don't feel badly at yourself and others for not knowing all about error coins. We all have to try to learn as we go. I'm almost 60 years old and still learn something different every day about error coins. your coin has had something bump into it and gouged up a small bunch of copper into a little lump. copper is soft and can be easily pushed into different shapes , sometimes I refer to copper to acting like play dough. you will easily understand more about coins as time goes on and you have a chance to study the difference between a mint error and damaged coins .

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rascal View Post
                        NOVICTERROR the other folks on here are telling you the truth. Don't feel badly at yourself and others for not knowing all about error coins. We all have to try to learn as we go. I'm almost 60 years old and still learn something different every day about error coins. your coin has had something bump into it and gouged up a small bunch of copper into a little lump. copper is soft and can be easily pushed into different shapes , sometimes I refer to copper to acting like play dough. you will easily understand more about coins as time goes on and you have a chance to study the difference between a mint error and damaged coins .
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                        Frustrations are shared: http://board.conecaonline.org/showthread.php?t=3218
                        Lee Lydston

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