1999P New traildie

[coin-crazy]

I had this coin on my desk for months and I must have forgotten all about it.So what do you think about these trails?

[wavysteps]

A bit minor but they are listable.

BJ Neff

[rascal]

trail dies

Folks i'm new on here and this is my first post. I read the rules and I believe I will enjoy a website where nasty talk is not allowed. I may be able to even help some beginning error collectors learn what they have. I have some awesome trail die coins and just may get around to getting some photos on here if I get to feeling a little better.

[diamond]

Welcome, Rascal. We look forward to sharing your coins and insights.

[rascal]

Thanks Mike , I sure am glad I found your website. We will have a ball on here and I love learning more about error coins. I wish I would have had a computer back 30 some odd years ago when I first started getting interested in error coins.

[rascal]

I'm new here and trying to find my way around. These darn computers are hard for some of us old folks to figure out. I'm trying to put some photos of a couple of coins on here. I'm including two photos of the same coin and one of another coin. the one with only one photo has large die grind marks going thru all of the memorial building. I wonder what the lady would have thought about this many die gouges that discovered the speared bison . the coin two photos has so much design removed from the top of the pillars of the memorial building that they are sharp pointed at the top and under the roof raised lines can be seen coming from the top of each post. this coin also has some more lines or trails that can not be seen in the photo. I'm just not very good with photos.

[diamond]

Very interesting. The first two photos show what appear to be a strong set of trails. But below the Memorial are raised lines that are probably die scrapes from a feeder finger. What seems rather strange is that these two sets of raised lines seem perfectly aligned with each other. I think BJ Neff will want to see this coin up close.

The second coin shows a particularly strong set of die scrapes. These are produced by a feeder finger scraping across the die face.

[rascal]

Mike i think the pillars of the building had something to do with the raised lines under the roof of the building. there are two lines above each pillar , probably one line for each side of the pillar. also something took a bite out of the top of each pillar making them peaked instead of flat. I'm thinking the die was heavily polished to cause the coin to be this way.sometimes the incuse letters and numbers on the coin die appears to cause this when a die is over polished or maybe it is from regular die wear. either way I like this coin and never could find another one of them.

That other coin in the photo is something to see in person. my camera didn't pick up all of the raised lines on it. I think you are right about it being from a feeder finger damaging the die . The feeder finger may have been rubbing the die ever time it fed or ejected a planchet.

I have another coin here somewhere that has a large raised up single line going thru the building that is square shaped on the top and I thought it may be from a bent die and after you mentioned the feeder finger this may be it's problem also.

Poor old Abe , I have quite a few cent coins with single raised die gouge lines going thru all different parts of his body on different coins. I wish they would sell like those speared bison's did. I never did own a speared bison and never did want one.

[jcuve]

Trail dies are hard to image but you did a fine job. As Mike noted there are strong trail lines on much of the first example including the tops of the pillars. Strong examples like this will show a distortion and pulling into design elements with the trails, which is what I think you are observing. Have you tried to match your trails with our site (traildies.com)? There area few that are similar but I don't see die scrapes on any so it may be either a new die or a new stage of an existing die. One of us may need to see it...

Also as Mike noted there are die scrapes (or what appear to be scrapes) within the field below the memorial not connected with the trails. The second example is something we see frequently, die scrapes from an ejection/feeder finger that literally scraped across the surface of the die one or more times. They can be rather dramatic in person but are not collectible.

Welcome aboard and thanks for sharing!

[wavysteps]

Hi Rascal and welcome back. It looks like Mike and Jason got to this post first and I agree with all that they said. If you would like, please send the trail die to either Jason or myself so that we can get it on traildies.com. Contact either of us for an address where to send the coin and thanks.

BJ Neff

[diamond]

Actually, die scrapes do have modest value, especially ones as severe as this. They certainly have educational value. I would certainly keep it if it.

[rascal]

Thanks guys for all the information. I didn't know anything about trail dies until about 2 months ago. There wiil not be any need for me to send the coin in to be looked at. I went to traildies.com and you folks already have one listed that is identical to mine. It is listed as; 1998p 1DER 028T If I would have thought to give you all the date of the coin I suppose it you would have found it easier for me.

[jcuve]

...Oh...I thought it was a '99, that's why I did not find it. Silly me - I looked at the thread title - which of course pertained to another coin altogether...

I just by chance looked at a '98 028T this past week and it had those die scrapes. Very good - glad that the site does its job and you were able to find it.

[rascal]

Jason that website about the trail dies will help a lot of folks identify their trail die coins. I have lots of them in my collection but some of them are lost for good because they are all boxed up and would take years to recover them. I also took a lot back to the bank before I realized to start keeping them. I kept the one in the photo because part of the design of the memorial building was changed.

This is the type coins I'm attracted to where the mint does something to alter the coins design whether a small or large change is visible.Did you see where Mr. Neff did a story about my two totally different variety nickels being made from the same set of dies? one of them is from a clashed die then the mint workers polished out the clashed die marks and created a even better variety coin the coin I nicknamed ULTRA DET. LEG BISON.

In the same rolls both of these coins are found in a awesome 2005P bison coin with a large perfect straight die gouge going up from the bottom edge of the coin and stops just below the bison at the mound the bison stands on can be found on rare occasions. Wow! talk about a speared bison , this one is even better in my opinion and a lot easier to see that the D mint speared bison if folks likes the speared bisons.these are to scarce and probably will never get recognised much because I know some of the other folks besides me that have a few and they will not put them up for sale.

Jason I love this internet communication and I have learned more about error coins in the past 5 years because of the help from folks like you , Mr. Diamond , Mr. Potter , MR. Neff and my favorite error man Mr. Wexler and a few more great error experts than I have learned in all of my first 30 plus years of collecting.

I'm in poor health but I will be on here ever chance I get. Troy

[coin-crazy]

Actually, die scrapes do have modest value, especially ones as severe as this. They certainly have educational value. I would certainly keep it if it.

I find die scrapes all the time like this, hmmm ..Next time Im going to sell them all to you Mike..Lol