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    1974-D Ike Dollar TDO New Discovery

    1974 D CN Obverse

    Discovery Coin: IDDDO-1 74D New IDDDR-MH/MD-DDR IDDP-1

    Cross Reference: None Known.

    Attributed by: IDDD Thomas Kalantzis.

    Class: Obverse Class II Tripled. Reverse Master Hub/Master Die.

    Submitted by: Richard Stachowski.

    Description: Class II tripling seen on many letters of IN GOD WE TRUST. Wide split serifs and doubling seen on the rest of the letters. Wide but mushy spread on the upper left serif of the 1. Tripling on the 7. CCW spread on the T and Y of LIBERTY. (Earlier die stage/die state may show a small CCW spread on all of LIBERTY)

    Reverse Description: Master hub/ Master die DDR.

    Marker: Obverse Full R in LIBERTY. Eye pocket die scratches. Scratch to the left of thee last T of TRUST running SW/NE. Die scratch to the left of the R of LIBERTY running SW/NE. Die crack starting at the rim to the left of the one in date meandering onto the one, continuing NE through the 9 and 7 ending at the 4 in date. Reverse: Type 3. Dot sized die gouge inside and to the upper right of the O in DOLLAR.

    Date Recorded: 12/5/2013, CD.

    Population: 1.

    Comments: Obverse Stage B, has been abraded due to cracking on the die (Serfice crack at the base of the one in date). Mr Stachowski has the honor of being the first collector to send in the first tripled working die (TDO) for the 1974 D minted coin.
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    Richard,

    Do you have any images of the Trip Die? Is this new to the CONECA listings?

    Ken
    Ken Potter
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    Unless otherwise noted, images are by Ken Potter and copyright Ken Potter 2015.

    CONECA Notice: Any individual is encouraged to submit articles, opinions, or any other material beneficial to the numismatic community. Contributions should not be libelous or slanderous; ethics and good taste shall be adhered to. Opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent the official CONECA policy or those of its officers. The act of submitting material shall constitute an expressed warranty by the contributor that the material is original; if not, source and permission must be provided.

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    • #3
      Yes it is new to coneca Ken, this is the coin I showed you at the ANA show at Macomb College . Heres the link where the images are http://www.ikedollardoubledie.com/19...-s-ddo-ddr.php just scroll down the page to 1974-D, its the first one showing, top of the list .
      Last edited by Stachowski; 05-10-2015, 12:30 PM.

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      • #4
        So did James get any good images of the coin? The ones on the site you sent me to are horrible.
        Ken Potter
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        Unless otherwise noted, images are by Ken Potter and copyright Ken Potter 2015.

        CONECA Notice: Any individual is encouraged to submit articles, opinions, or any other material beneficial to the numismatic community. Contributions should not be libelous or slanderous; ethics and good taste shall be adhered to. Opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent the official CONECA policy or those of its officers. The act of submitting material shall constitute an expressed warranty by the contributor that the material is original; if not, source and permission must be provided.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by koinpro View Post
          So did James get any good images of the coin? The ones on the site you sent me to are horrible.
          Coneca has never seen this coin, or mr wiles .

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          • #6
            Richard,

            Maybe you should sent it to Dr. Wiles?
            Last edited by koinpro; 05-12-2015, 12:56 AM.
            Ken Potter
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            Unless otherwise noted, images are by Ken Potter and copyright Ken Potter 2015.

            CONECA Notice: Any individual is encouraged to submit articles, opinions, or any other material beneficial to the numismatic community. Contributions should not be libelous or slanderous; ethics and good taste shall be adhered to. Opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent the official CONECA policy or those of its officers. The act of submitting material shall constitute an expressed warranty by the contributor that the material is original; if not, source and permission must be provided.

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            • #7
              So if you have not sent it to James Wiles, how do you know it is a discovery piece?
              Ken Potter
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              CONECA Notice: Any individual is encouraged to submit articles, opinions, or any other material beneficial to the numismatic community. Contributions should not be libelous or slanderous; ethics and good taste shall be adhered to. Opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent the official CONECA policy or those of its officers. The act of submitting material shall constitute an expressed warranty by the contributor that the material is original; if not, source and permission must be provided.

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              • #8
                Thomas Kalantzis is the one that did the coin, and label it as a discovery coin. Nothing like it on coneca site, wexler site, or IDDD site, or any other error company has done or see one, so thats what makes it a discovery coin .
                Last edited by Stachowski; 05-12-2015, 09:12 AM.

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                • #9
                  So, if I send a coin to whoever and he has not seen one before, its a discovery coin? Interesting. Now if this person was an attributor for CONECA I would say it carries some weight, sadly this person is not even a member. I do have his IKE book and he seems very knowledgeable in that area.
                  Proud Member: CONECA, TEC, HVNS, NS, ANA

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                  • #10
                    I know theres no cross refenerce number for this coin either, and yes, I should sent it to Mr. Wiles to add on coneca list ..

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                    • #11
                      Richard,
                      So if some other guy has had one in his collection labeled as a TDO for 20 years, your coin is still the "discovery coin"? I say it's more of a "fist reported to whomever coin".
                      Ken Potter
                      CONECA Public Relations
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                      Unless otherwise noted, images are by Ken Potter and copyright Ken Potter 2015.

                      CONECA Notice: Any individual is encouraged to submit articles, opinions, or any other material beneficial to the numismatic community. Contributions should not be libelous or slanderous; ethics and good taste shall be adhered to. Opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent the official CONECA policy or those of its officers. The act of submitting material shall constitute an expressed warranty by the contributor that the material is original; if not, source and permission must be provided.

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                      • #12
                        Not trying to beat you up on this but let you think about what you are saying. First reported to somebody is one thing but saying "discovery" is another.

                        Anyway, it may be a nice variety. Can't tell much by the images on the site you sent me to.
                        Ken Potter
                        CONECA Public Relations
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                        Unless otherwise noted, images are by Ken Potter and copyright Ken Potter 2015.

                        CONECA Notice: Any individual is encouraged to submit articles, opinions, or any other material beneficial to the numismatic community. Contributions should not be libelous or slanderous; ethics and good taste shall be adhered to. Opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent the official CONECA policy or those of its officers. The act of submitting material shall constitute an expressed warranty by the contributor that the material is original; if not, source and permission must be provided.

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                        • #13
                          You know how grading companies are, first day of issue, early strike, discovery, list just goes on, all just label used from the grading companies .

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                          • #14
                            Richard,

                            "Discovery" was your word. ANACS and Tom said "First Report" which for each was accurate. With all that said, you know, I'm just beating you up because I have nothing better to do .... but I also want you to think about the use of the term "discovery". Ask yourself why they didn't use it.

                            Fair enough?
                            Ken Potter
                            CONECA Public Relations
                            Member of: CONECA-HLM, ANA-LM, MSNS-HLM, NWDCC, CSNS, NLG, IASAC, Fly-In
                            Visit my website: http://koinpro.tripod.com
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                            Unless otherwise noted, images are by Ken Potter and copyright Ken Potter 2015.

                            CONECA Notice: Any individual is encouraged to submit articles, opinions, or any other material beneficial to the numismatic community. Contributions should not be libelous or slanderous; ethics and good taste shall be adhered to. Opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent the official CONECA policy or those of its officers. The act of submitting material shall constitute an expressed warranty by the contributor that the material is original; if not, source and permission must be provided.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by koinpro View Post
                              Richard,

                              "Discovery" was your word. ANACS and Tom said "First Report" which for each was accurate. With all that said, you know, I'm just beating you up because I have nothing better to do .... but I also want you to think about the use of the term "discovery". Ask yourself why they didn't use it.

                              Fair enough?
                              Ken are you asking Richard to talk to himself? Oh Geez... .
                              Proud Member: CONECA, TEC, HVNS, NS, ANA

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