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    Lincoln 1943 D/D RPM-004

    I have a Lincoln cent - 1943 D/D RPM-004 in Mint State.
    I have called NCG and PCGS and neither one will grade this coin as a RPM-004 since it is not listed in the Cherrypickers Guide Fourth Edition, Volume 1.

    This is really a beatiful coin, zinc coating over the steel planchet.
    I have attached a pic of the Date/Mint Mark showing the Mint Mark re-punch/error.

    Any suggestions on how to go about getting this coin graded?
    Just submit it as an error coin and have it graded that way?

    It is listed in the CONECA Top 100 list.

    Thanks for any suggestions,
    Curtis

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    Hi Curtis and welcome to the CONECA forum.

    Okay, not to be the bearer of bad news, however, the picture you show is not CONECA, RPM-004 and I believe that you are seeing is severe machine damage doubling, which is not only present on the mint mark, but also on the date. Another factor is that the mint mark is in the wrong position for it to be RPM-004.

    You are right, neither PCGS or NGS will encapsulate without it being in the Cherrypickers guide, however, ANACS, ICG and others will.

    BJ Neff
    Member of: ANA, CCC, CONECA, Fly-in-club, FUN, NLG & T.E.V.E.C.

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    • #3
      Thanks for the response...

      That's what I needed to know...
      Are the machine damaged coins worth anything?
      It is a beatiful specimen of a coin overall with a great mint finish.

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      • #4
        Coins grading - 1943 errors

        I recieved this coin in a $25.00 grab bag off ebay.
        The lot had the PDS versions of the 1943 Zinc coated steel pennies.
        The D and S both show doubling on the 4 in the date just like the photo listed below.

        If I could get Anacs to encapsulate and grade them even as a mint error, I would like to send them in even if I would just break even on the value of the coins. I believe they would reach the MS60 to MS64 range.

        The lot also included a full 2005 Mint set, several state proof quarters, 2 Walker halfs, silver nickels, etc. Not a bad lot....

        What do you think?

        Curtis

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        • #5
          well yeah BJ beat me to it i was going to say it's die deterioration. from what i know so far anacs does a better job with the varieties and errors also if you being an individual it is easier to send to them because the other companies you have to pretty much go to an authorized dealer of their product to send it to them. You have to look at each of the sites and determin what is best for you.
          Jimmy Ehrhart
          previous member of CONECA and C.F.C.C.

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          • #6
            The 1943-D in question will not be slabbed as a variety at any of the TPGs. It is considered a normal coin. The doubling is from die deterioration. It is extremely common and has no premium value.
            CONECA 20th Century Die Variety Attributer

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            • #7
              Having literally seen thousands of these, This is not a case of die deterioration. This kind of doubling is frequently encountered as a result of a coin being replated , outside of the Mint.

              They are called reprocessed cents.

              Doubling on digits, letters, the profile, and mintmark can be seen on most examples of these coins that have been reprocessed.

              Thanks,
              Bill

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              • #8
                It has to be NGC or PCGS? SEGS will do varieties..

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