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1862 U.S.Half Dime with secondary 2

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  • Paddy54
    Chesapeake Coins
    • Aug 2010
    • 187

    1862 U.S.Half Dime with secondary 2

    OK yeah I know this is going to sound strange but... I purchased at a coin show on Friday a very sweet looking 1862 half dime. After I got home I was scoping it out. It has unreal clash make the entire obv. Can be seen on the rev. As well as a good bit of the rev can be seen on the obv.
    But what really rocked my world was to the south east of the primary 2 in the date is another two that is about 1/20 the size of the primary 2.
    It is between the denticals and the primary 2.
    It's the same type style and shape as the primary 2. I have the images posted in us coins on coin talk. I will later post the photos here as they are on my main computer not my pad.
    Has anyone here ever seen something like this before? I've seen one coin with a misplaced mint mark to the west of the primary . But never a date numeral and smaller to boot.
    Any thoughts on this is appreciated and no I'm not seeing things or crazy!
    La vie dasante
  • koinpro
    CONECA Public Relations
    • Nov 2007
    • 467

    #2
    I'll wait to see your images... I moved this tread from the General Forum to the Die Variety Forum.
    Ken Potter
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    Last edited by koinpro; 05-24-2015, 11:57 PM.
    Ken Potter
    CONECA Public Relations
    Member of: CONECA-HLM, ANA-LM, MSNS-HLM, NWDCC, CSNS, NLG, IASAC, Fly-In
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    Unless otherwise noted, images are by Ken Potter and copyright Ken Potter 2015.


    CONECA Notice: Any individual is encouraged to submit articles, opinions, or any other material beneficial to the numismatic community. Contributions should not be libelous or slanderous; ethics and good taste shall be adhered to. Opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent the official CONECA policy or those of its officers. The act of submitting material shall constitute an expressed warranty by the contributor that the material is original; if not, source and permission must be provided.

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    • Paddy54
      Chesapeake Coins
      • Aug 2010
      • 187

      #3
      Here are my images of the 1862 Half Dime. the 2 is the same style number as the primary 2and sits midway south east of the primary number. You'll also notice an 8 or 6 in the denticles below the primary 8.
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      Last edited by Paddy54; 05-25-2015, 09:47 AM.
      La vie dasante

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      • koinpro
        CONECA Public Relations
        • Nov 2007
        • 467

        #4
        Sorry, I'm not seeing another 2. How about an arrow?
        Ken Potter
        CONECA Public Relations
        Member of: CONECA-HLM, ANA-LM, MSNS-HLM, NWDCC, CSNS, NLG, IASAC, Fly-In
        Visit my website: http://koinpro.tripod.com
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        Unless otherwise noted, images are by Ken Potter and copyright Ken Potter 2015.


        CONECA Notice: Any individual is encouraged to submit articles, opinions, or any other material beneficial to the numismatic community. Contributions should not be libelous or slanderous; ethics and good taste shall be adhered to. Opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent the official CONECA policy or those of its officers. The act of submitting material shall constitute an expressed warranty by the contributor that the material is original; if not, source and permission must be provided.

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        • Stachowski
          • Mar 2015
          • 741

          #5
          I put a little circle around the " 2 " I think hes talking about .
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          • Paddy54
            Chesapeake Coins
            • Aug 2010
            • 187

            #6
            Thanks for the circle that is correct .
            La vie dasante

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            • koinpro
              CONECA Public Relations
              • Nov 2007
              • 467

              #7
              OK -- that's too small to be a "real" 2. Might be something like a small die gouge. What else is on the coin?
              Ken Potter
              CONECA Public Relations
              Member of: CONECA-HLM, ANA-LM, MSNS-HLM, NWDCC, CSNS, NLG, IASAC, Fly-In
              Visit my website: http://koinpro.tripod.com
              Visit CONECA's Website
              Unless otherwise noted, images are by Ken Potter and copyright Ken Potter 2015.


              CONECA Notice: Any individual is encouraged to submit articles, opinions, or any other material beneficial to the numismatic community. Contributions should not be libelous or slanderous; ethics and good taste shall be adhered to. Opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent the official CONECA policy or those of its officers. The act of submitting material shall constitute an expressed warranty by the contributor that the material is original; if not, source and permission must be provided.

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              • Paddy54
                Chesapeake Coins
                • Aug 2010
                • 187

                #8
                There's a 6 or 8 in the denticals below the 8.
                Ken have you ever seen anything like this before? And in hand with a loop or a scope you can see that it's a 2.
                La vie dasante

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                • coinzip
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 33

                  #9
                  Is the small 2 raised up off the surface of the coin?
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                  • koinpro
                    CONECA Public Relations
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 467

                    #10
                    I never saw anything like it. Maybe sending it to Mike Ellis would help.
                    Ken Potter
                    CONECA Public Relations
                    Member of: CONECA-HLM, ANA-LM, MSNS-HLM, NWDCC, CSNS, NLG, IASAC, Fly-In
                    Visit my website: http://koinpro.tripod.com
                    Visit CONECA's Website
                    Unless otherwise noted, images are by Ken Potter and copyright Ken Potter 2015.


                    CONECA Notice: Any individual is encouraged to submit articles, opinions, or any other material beneficial to the numismatic community. Contributions should not be libelous or slanderous; ethics and good taste shall be adhered to. Opinions expressed herein do not necessarily represent the official CONECA policy or those of its officers. The act of submitting material shall constitute an expressed warranty by the contributor that the material is original; if not, source and permission must be provided.

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                    • Paddy54
                      Chesapeake Coins
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 187

                      #11
                      Originally posted by coinzip View Post
                      Is the small 2 raised up off the surface of the coin?
                      Raised above the coins surface using the scope.
                      La vie dasante

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                      • Stachowski
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 741

                        #12
                        Does it look original to the coin, stamped about the same time coin was, never know, could be some kind of counter-stamp .. Would of been a cool time to live, for what I did for a living .... Would of loved putting the lime stone on some of thoses building in Washington DC .......

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                        • Paddy54
                          Chesapeake Coins
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 187

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Stachowski View Post
                          Does it look original to the coin, stamped about the same time coin was, never know, could be some kind of counter-stamp .. Would of been a cool time to live, for what I did for a living .... Would of loved putting the lime stone on some of thoses building in Washington DC .......
                          The coin in hand looks mint state, when I scoped the coin it was found by accident but was one of the first areas I was scoping . The coin is bright so getting a image with out back scatter is hard. Spot on it not as pronounced however at a slight angle it pops right up.
                          Like most coins with bright mirror finishes getting a image is not easy. However when I zeroed in on the area and tilted the scope there it was.
                          I will add there are no other marks on the coin but what looks to be a 6 or 8 under the 8 in the denticals .
                          As far as doing stone work they are like beavers on the Capital building reworking the stone. It's completely covered now in plastic. I was in DC today always a pleasure "not" lol
                          Last edited by Paddy54; 05-27-2015, 07:53 PM.
                          La vie dasante

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                          • Stachowski
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 741

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Paddy54 View Post
                            The coin in hand looks mint state, when I scoped the coin it was found by accident but was one of the first areas I was scoping . The coin is bright so getting a image with out back scatter is hard. Spot on it not as pronounced however at a slight angle it pops right up.
                            Like most coins with bright mirror finishes getting a image is not easy. However when I zeroed in on the area and tilted the scope there it was.
                            I will add there are no other marks on the coin but what looks to be a 6 or 8 under the 8 in the denticals .
                            As far as doing stone work they are like beavers on the Capital building reworking the stone. It's completely covered now in plastic. I was in DC today always a pleasure "not" lol
                            Maybe its like the 1952 Superbird washington quarter .. That would be cool ...

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                            • jmangham
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 234

                              #15
                              I am curious about this one. Let us know what you find out!
                              CONECA member

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