1964D 10c- Hotlips?

[QueenOfCoin]

Greetings,

I am new here, and I am submitting these few photos I took of what I believe might belong in the hot lips category.
I apologize for the images, I know they are not the best. I ordered a coin microscope, which I will receive estimated Wednesday, and then will be able to provide better pictures at that point.

Front:
There is clear doubling on the lips, nose, forehead. Additionally, there is doubling on the letters on the front of the coin.

Back:
There is doubling on all of the letters, additionally, look at the branch, it has a lot of doubling as well.

Better pics to be posted as soon as I get that microscope.

Thank you for looking
Betty W

[jcuve]

I have no idea about the reverse from that one photo posted, sorry. I need bigger photos and more specificity as to what your seeing.
I have not done any work on the so called hot lips dimes. We do not list them as per James Wiles conclusion that they are minor clash marks. If you're seeing something else, I would need to see some bigger photos.

[QueenOfCoin]

I have a video I took with my microscope. Would it be okay to post the link here? It is uploading on youtube.com right now. If not that is okay, I will take some screen shots, from the video and repost them soon.

[jcuve]

You can try posting it - I have no idea if it will work or not. It would still help if you could diagnose the supposed doubling you're seeing. Have you ruled out machine doubling and die wear?

[QueenOfCoin]

I can try to explain, I apologize for my coin terminology in advance. Maybe I should have started this thread in mint errors?

On the obverse of the coin LIBER are all doubled. 1964 all doubled.
Starting from his chin up to his nose there is doubling, as like a line next to his face. There are dye marks? at the bridge of his nose. There is a dye mark in front of his nose, that looks like the his nose landed there first. There is a chuck of dye above the N ( IN GOD) That looks like the IN landed there first. If you look at the little chunk of dye and look down, it looks like IN is under it.

Hope the link works! ( I will take one of the reverse tomorrow )

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUTOaGrZ4sc

Thank you again!
Betty W

[jcuve]

Maybe there's some machine doubling on LIBERTY. There may be old clash marks on the lips (aka hot lips) - but I do not see anything listable, sorry. Keep up the hunt!

[QueenOfCoin]

Identified!

Today when I was using my scope on the reverse of the coin, I found that BEAUTIFUL DD staring back at me, additionally identical dye marks? (little chunks on letters) that match the I in DIME that match all the coins found here;

1964-D/D 10C RPM FS-501
1964-D/D 10C RPM FS-501 (Regular Strike) Roosevelt Dime - PCGS CoinFacts

Pretty excited, I will be sending it to ANACS as soon as I can. I am having them verify/research the coin and whatnot, and take pictures.
I will be sure to post my results when I hear back next year.

Thank you jcuve for your help!

Betty W

[jcuve]

Are you sure? FS-501 is an RPM (RPM-003 in the CONECA files specifically), your description earlier did not sound like you had a RPM. I would hate to see you send something to ANACS if it is not correct. It shows a repunched D NE of the primary like below.
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[QueenOfCoin]

This D seems to be closer to the torch.


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[QueenOfCoin]

I found a dye mark above the W in WE also looks like the WE has been punched wrong.
If you look at all of: IN GOD WE TRUST it all has that "repunching" like you showed me on the back of the coin.

Also, the date seems to be repunched so many times it goes to the rim of coin.

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[jcuve]

These photos are better. It looks like a normal silver dime - I see nothing unusual or noteworthy. All of the haphazard lines through the obverse are die polish lines (probably as the dies clashed and were sanded down to remove the marks).

Please note: Nothing (except mintmarks) can be repunched on a US coin minted after 1909 as the Mint stopped punching dies altogether around this time - all of the designs were either from the galvano or engraved into the master die.