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1985-(?) 25c OFF (Nickel) PLANCHET

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  • Novicetoerr
    • Apr 2008
    • 595
    #1

    1985-(?) 25c OFF (Nickel) PLANCHET

    Hi ALL !

    Attached photos. Have also recaptured my previous post (1982-D 25c OFF METAL/STOCK which Mike D. firmly believes to be counterfeit, which I disagreed) for comparison.

    Anybody has photos (and characteristics) of:
    1. Washington QTR OFF METAL/STOCK ERROR?
    2. Wash. QTR OFF-(Nickel, Dime or Cent) PLANCHET ERROR?
    3. Wash. QTR affirmed Counterfeit by US Mint?

    Thanks again,
    J
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  • diamond
    • Jul 2007
    • 2040
    #2
    The 1985 quarter is badly damaged by acid or a similar corrosive material. That's why the design is blurry and why it's undersized and underweight.
    Mike Diamond. Error coin writer and researcher.

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    • Novicetoerr
      • Apr 2008
      • 595
      #3
      Originally posted by diamond View Post
      The 1985 quarter is badly damaged by acid or a similar corrosive material. That's why the design is blurry and why it's undersized and underweight.
      Hi Mike,

      Thanks again for the quick comment.

      -I'd disagree, though, on the acid/corrosion reduction. If you look at the
      close-ups of the reeds (comparing to the 1968 QTR's), if over-exposed,
      I'd expect more of the reeds' surfaces will also be washed away, and will
      be worse than the other coin's. But it is otherwise (or comparable).

      - Putting aside (for the moment) the notion of acid wash-out, do the
      characteristics of the error coin align to that of an OFF-PLANCHET's?

      Thanks again,
      J

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      • diamond
        • Jul 2007
        • 2040
        #4
        The reeding is mashed down, so it's hard to assess its original condition. The coin's appearance is incompatible with a genuine wrong planchet error. It's also in horrible condition.
        Mike Diamond. Error coin writer and researcher.

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        • Novicetoerr
          • Apr 2008
          • 595
          #5
          Hi Mike,

          Thanks again for the educational feedbacks! I'm back, but more excited in digging, clawing and painfully peeping thru my XXmag glasses and
          XXXmag scopes on samples from my stocks of coins hoping to have same luck as Columbus had when he set sail.

          Cheers,
          J

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          • foundinrolls
            • Aug 2007
            • 228
            #6
            First coin is indeed acid dipped and damaged.

            Second coin is counterfeit, badly plated over copper.

            Third coin, just a damaged coin. Could be a multitude of reasons.

            Thanks,
            Bill

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            • wavysteps
              • Aug 2007
              • 1925
              #7
              The first coin is indeed acid treated; this is more commonly seen occurring on Lincoln cents. A common High School lab trick.

              The second coin seems to be made from a cast die and not the hubbed die used for U. S. coins. This type of forgery is most commonly seen with the "Trade dollars" that are coming out of the Far East; also the additional weight is a give way to its not being made in the U. S. Mint.

              BJ Neff
              Member of: ANA, CCC, CONECA, Fly-in-club, FUN, NLG & T.E.V.E.C.

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              • Novicetoerr
                • Apr 2008
                • 595
                #8
                BJ, Bill,
                Many thanks for the feedbacks. Additional knowledge for me.
                (Thought I had 2 big finds...Back to my digging area to re-try.)

                J

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                • foundinrolls
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 228
                  #9
                  It takes time to get used to the various looks that coins have. Once you see a few of the same types of things, they become easier to spot. Many of us have looked at many millions of coins and we have become comfortable, by experience with identifying counterfeits and various damages.

                  At the same time, we also learned what the "good stuff" looks like too:-)

                  It is tough at the beginning:-) I still remember a few major stumbling blocks I had to get through many years ago when I first started with searching through coins for die varieties. The absolute toughest thing to do is to get used to real die varieties vs. machine doubling and damage vs. errors.

                  I have some stuff you can look at at www.foundinrolls.com there are some varieties and some errors that you can look at to give you some ideas of what to look for. The CONECA site is great and there are other sites as well that can help you with digging into this part of the hobby.

                  This forum is an excellent place to learn as well. There are folks here who are the best in the error and variety world. Ask questions and there will be help!

                  Have Fun,
                  Bill

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                  • Novicetoerr
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 595
                    #10
                    Thanks again Bill !

                    Will visit and mark your site. I know I'll enjoy browsing.
                    Mike D. has been the instrument that walked me thru this
                    when I first consulted him.

                    Thanks to all!

                    Have enjoyed since!!!!

                    J

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