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Design Abnormalities or Experimental Coin? Is the Design of my coin from Venezuela or US?
SEEKING URGENT ASSISTANCE IN OBTAINING CLARITY ON THIS COIN.
Comparing this particular coin with other coins in it series there is an extremely long list of Design Abnormalities. This coin is either a US or Venezuela 1 cent experimental coin?
Comparing this coin design with Venezuela to a US coin there is similar characteristic of the design Venezuela one cent coin.
QUESTION: what year did Venezuela stop copying the US coin design in Venezuela?
NOTE: Question? Design Abnormalities or Experimental Coin
Compare my coin image to ANY Coin Books.
I have checked the History on coin auctions and other coins that are viewed on line, even the Business strikes and there is nothing that compares to this coin.
What is seen on this coin are countless design ABNORMALITIES on both sides of the coin:
I have not found any different "tone / color" running throughout the mixture of the alloy on the planchest bearing in mind that 95%copper and 5% tin and zinc mixture for 1873 (cl 3) cent coin.
The design abnormalities are quite different. It took me a while to notice the difference even they are filled with varieties.
Position and /or location of the date of “1873” date of coin, which is position further left in that area on this coin is further than any other Indian Head Cent Coins (*or business strike coins).
First, imagine an invisible vertical line under the date 1873 which should be in alignment with each other. Notice that the digits are not placed on this invisible vertical line that has been a custom of all US coins.
The digit “1” is in alignment with the ("cut shorten"-bottom neck of the Indian Head) like no other Indian Head Cent coin. Usually the date of the coin is centered under the neck. The Neck comes to a point on all Indian Cent coins. Whereas this Image of the "neck" of the coin is much shorter and cut by more than ¾ of what it should be in the US coin.
The Date is position to the Far left on the coin. Also the “First Digit no.1” is twice it size in thickness and larger than all the other digits date of 1873 (cl 3) coin.
Also this “1” digit has a slight lean. The spacing of each digit between 1 8 7 3 spacing between each digit may reflects that the date stamp is a “single digit date stamp”, rather than one single strike date stamp date struck on to the coin.
1. Viewing the Date 1873, you will notice that the first digit “1” is much larger than any business strike coin of 1873 series of coins, as if it came from a different series of much larger coins. The characteristic of the “digit 1 & 8 “touch at the base of each other and this indicate an "open 3" 1973 coin?
First (two) digits on the date 1873 (cl3) coin is now presenting it to be an open 3 Indian Head Cent coin. There is a conflict in comparing the date digits with an Open 3 coin (vs) a Closed 3 coin.
In the Coin Book, you will note that the Open 3 coin has a “wider digit 1” also the “design digit 8” presents that this coin is mint to be an open 3 coin. But the “digit 1” is extremely wider than what it should be this is another unusual abnormality for this coin. Also the digit “1” has a slight lean to the left which has been seen in some of the 1873 (cl3) coins.
2. Viewing also the second digit “8” is also much larger than any business strike 1873 coin in this series or that it may have come from a different larger coin series over all?
The walls of the digit “8” itself is much thicker which give it an arty look to the date of 1873. I have found this to be uncommon in the Indian Head cent coins. Compare the “font” arty date of 1873 which is not the same in any book on the market or any relating coins of 1873 (cl 3). It appears different in numerous ways. It is unusual to other series of Indian Head cent coins.
3. Viewing the third digit “7” which has a teardrop bottom at the base of the digit "7" also which has an unusual characteristic design to this digit. This reflects back to the Venezuela digit "7".
For example this 7 “digit” drops below the digit “8” itself.
Also there is a major pronounced drooping which appears to be a straight line off the tip of the 7 or in front of the “7” that has a straight line that hangs further down from the top left of the digit “7” .
What is really unusual about the “digit 7” there appears to have a crown or point tip , on top in or in the middle of the digit”7” it self.
4. Viewing the last digit “3” which drops below the digit “7”. And the top of the number 3 digit appears to be cut off as if it were mint to be an (1873 *open 3 Indian Head Cent coin). There is a conflict in all 4 the digits of 1873 on this coin. It appears when viewing or comparing the “date & digits” together with a (coin book guide) of another (closed 3) and (open 3) 1873 Indian head cent coin. The coin itself with an over all appearance which has the same characteristic of (two) 2 coins placed on one coin.
5. Viewing the coin you will notice a “two tone color” of the coin with wear on the coin. I have not found any other coin in 1783 (cl3) that has this color tone characteristics which brings to the attention a "streaky toning-possibly something could have been awry with the copper planchets but these are not die trials.
Backside of coin ABNORMALITIES:
Top of the Shield on this coin is not flat, but with 2 groves in design, like the Venezuela cent coin, where as the book on this coin, should be flat with a point coming in the middle of the shield as it reflects in some coin books.
There are other coins I have seen that reflects this same design in 1873 (cl3) coin. Also the top of shield has a different 2 / 45 degree angles and these angles are shorter in length that is reflected in the Coin book. As for this compairson it is identical to the Venezuela cent coin. If you compare this coin with Venezuela 1 cent coin you will understand the similarity in their characteristics at the 45 degree angles. Note: that the Right side angle on the shield is longer than the left side.
Compare the “PRINT” or “Font” of the “one cent” image, you will notice that the base of the “E” is nearly closed in the print of the coin closer than what been shown in coin books. The font of the “one cent” is extremely thicker in design than any business strike coin or any coin in the series of Indian Head Cent coins, as reflected in the Books.
The over total design of the backside of the coin is much wider in the artistic development like that of the Venezuela design of the coin like no other coin in that series of Us Indian Head cent coin.
Focus on the ribbon where it is stubby and short as seen in the Venezuela 1 cent coin. Whereas the other US Indian Head cent coins from the Indian head series are much thinner and narrower ribbon, which comes to a very long end or into a sharp point. The entire artwork on the coin is off set in an expanded wider artwork. See comparison in Coin book.
Compare the (top) of the “shield” of an US 1873 (cl 3) coin with Venezuela Cent coin to another date coin the design is some what different. You will see a slight design difference. The shield is not identical but close to other coins in this series and business strikes.
Compare the wreath of the coin, with any 1873 (cl 3) Indian Head Cent coin, you will discover that the wreath has a slight design difference to it as well. Everything about the wreath is thicker and shorter in design than other Indian head coin series.
Take you time in comparing the image to any coin book with images of Indian head cent coins and you will see the major differences. The longer one looks at it the more difference is noticeable.
NOTE: Reference concern about disclosure and authorization to use other web-site for this topic. Will provide upon request.
thank you
onekram
SEEKING URGENT ASSISTANCE IN OBTAINING CLARITY ON THIS COIN.
Comparing this particular coin with other coins in it series there is an extremely long list of Design Abnormalities. This coin is either a US or Venezuela 1 cent experimental coin?
Comparing this coin design with Venezuela to a US coin there is similar characteristic of the design Venezuela one cent coin.
QUESTION: what year did Venezuela stop copying the US coin design in Venezuela?
NOTE: Question? Design Abnormalities or Experimental Coin
Compare my coin image to ANY Coin Books.
I have checked the History on coin auctions and other coins that are viewed on line, even the Business strikes and there is nothing that compares to this coin.
What is seen on this coin are countless design ABNORMALITIES on both sides of the coin:
I have not found any different "tone / color" running throughout the mixture of the alloy on the planchest bearing in mind that 95%copper and 5% tin and zinc mixture for 1873 (cl 3) cent coin.
The design abnormalities are quite different. It took me a while to notice the difference even they are filled with varieties.
Position and /or location of the date of “1873” date of coin, which is position further left in that area on this coin is further than any other Indian Head Cent Coins (*or business strike coins).
First, imagine an invisible vertical line under the date 1873 which should be in alignment with each other. Notice that the digits are not placed on this invisible vertical line that has been a custom of all US coins.
The digit “1” is in alignment with the ("cut shorten"-bottom neck of the Indian Head) like no other Indian Head Cent coin. Usually the date of the coin is centered under the neck. The Neck comes to a point on all Indian Cent coins. Whereas this Image of the "neck" of the coin is much shorter and cut by more than ¾ of what it should be in the US coin.
The Date is position to the Far left on the coin. Also the “First Digit no.1” is twice it size in thickness and larger than all the other digits date of 1873 (cl 3) coin.
Also this “1” digit has a slight lean. The spacing of each digit between 1 8 7 3 spacing between each digit may reflects that the date stamp is a “single digit date stamp”, rather than one single strike date stamp date struck on to the coin.
1. Viewing the Date 1873, you will notice that the first digit “1” is much larger than any business strike coin of 1873 series of coins, as if it came from a different series of much larger coins. The characteristic of the “digit 1 & 8 “touch at the base of each other and this indicate an "open 3" 1973 coin?
First (two) digits on the date 1873 (cl3) coin is now presenting it to be an open 3 Indian Head Cent coin. There is a conflict in comparing the date digits with an Open 3 coin (vs) a Closed 3 coin.
In the Coin Book, you will note that the Open 3 coin has a “wider digit 1” also the “design digit 8” presents that this coin is mint to be an open 3 coin. But the “digit 1” is extremely wider than what it should be this is another unusual abnormality for this coin. Also the digit “1” has a slight lean to the left which has been seen in some of the 1873 (cl3) coins.
2. Viewing also the second digit “8” is also much larger than any business strike 1873 coin in this series or that it may have come from a different larger coin series over all?
The walls of the digit “8” itself is much thicker which give it an arty look to the date of 1873. I have found this to be uncommon in the Indian Head cent coins. Compare the “font” arty date of 1873 which is not the same in any book on the market or any relating coins of 1873 (cl 3). It appears different in numerous ways. It is unusual to other series of Indian Head cent coins.
3. Viewing the third digit “7” which has a teardrop bottom at the base of the digit "7" also which has an unusual characteristic design to this digit. This reflects back to the Venezuela digit "7".
For example this 7 “digit” drops below the digit “8” itself.
Also there is a major pronounced drooping which appears to be a straight line off the tip of the 7 or in front of the “7” that has a straight line that hangs further down from the top left of the digit “7” .
What is really unusual about the “digit 7” there appears to have a crown or point tip , on top in or in the middle of the digit”7” it self.
4. Viewing the last digit “3” which drops below the digit “7”. And the top of the number 3 digit appears to be cut off as if it were mint to be an (1873 *open 3 Indian Head Cent coin). There is a conflict in all 4 the digits of 1873 on this coin. It appears when viewing or comparing the “date & digits” together with a (coin book guide) of another (closed 3) and (open 3) 1873 Indian head cent coin. The coin itself with an over all appearance which has the same characteristic of (two) 2 coins placed on one coin.
5. Viewing the coin you will notice a “two tone color” of the coin with wear on the coin. I have not found any other coin in 1783 (cl3) that has this color tone characteristics which brings to the attention a "streaky toning-possibly something could have been awry with the copper planchets but these are not die trials.
Backside of coin ABNORMALITIES:
Top of the Shield on this coin is not flat, but with 2 groves in design, like the Venezuela cent coin, where as the book on this coin, should be flat with a point coming in the middle of the shield as it reflects in some coin books.
There are other coins I have seen that reflects this same design in 1873 (cl3) coin. Also the top of shield has a different 2 / 45 degree angles and these angles are shorter in length that is reflected in the Coin book. As for this compairson it is identical to the Venezuela cent coin. If you compare this coin with Venezuela 1 cent coin you will understand the similarity in their characteristics at the 45 degree angles. Note: that the Right side angle on the shield is longer than the left side.
Compare the “PRINT” or “Font” of the “one cent” image, you will notice that the base of the “E” is nearly closed in the print of the coin closer than what been shown in coin books. The font of the “one cent” is extremely thicker in design than any business strike coin or any coin in the series of Indian Head Cent coins, as reflected in the Books.
The over total design of the backside of the coin is much wider in the artistic development like that of the Venezuela design of the coin like no other coin in that series of Us Indian Head cent coin.
Focus on the ribbon where it is stubby and short as seen in the Venezuela 1 cent coin. Whereas the other US Indian Head cent coins from the Indian head series are much thinner and narrower ribbon, which comes to a very long end or into a sharp point. The entire artwork on the coin is off set in an expanded wider artwork. See comparison in Coin book.
Compare the (top) of the “shield” of an US 1873 (cl 3) coin with Venezuela Cent coin to another date coin the design is some what different. You will see a slight design difference. The shield is not identical but close to other coins in this series and business strikes.
Compare the wreath of the coin, with any 1873 (cl 3) Indian Head Cent coin, you will discover that the wreath has a slight design difference to it as well. Everything about the wreath is thicker and shorter in design than other Indian head coin series.
Take you time in comparing the image to any coin book with images of Indian head cent coins and you will see the major differences. The longer one looks at it the more difference is noticeable.
NOTE: Reference concern about disclosure and authorization to use other web-site for this topic. Will provide upon request.
thank you
onekram
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