1983 1C DDR question...
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1983 1C DDR question...
Hi, I am relatively new to the coin world, but have been studying up on varieties and trying to educate myself and train my eyes to differentiate between the "real thing" and worthless doubling. I submitted this 1983 penny to NGC and was told it was not a DDR. It was my first submission, along with a few other coins that I thought were varieties and failed on all counts. So I went back to studying the websites, photos and forums. Here are some pictures of the coin, apologies for the quality, it is slabbed, so I had to photograph through the plastic. I'm hoping someone can explain why NGC said this is not a variety. Thank you for any feedback/advice.You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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THAT is an answer you should be asking the third party grading company - we cannot answer why they did not do something, we aren't privy to their process. They would answer the submitter, not just anyone.
As for the coin, in my opinion, it looks like worthless doubling.
That reverse die appears to be in a very late die stage. It is common for mechanical doubling in this case. The die is not as sharp as it was when new, things get rounded and problems arise with the working dies as they get older.
No notched or split serifs
No thicker devices (numbers, letters etc)
Did you compare it to these ? The doubled dies are struck into the steel working dies, so the areas they show as examples are the best areas to match up. If it does not match, it probably won't be that DDO/DDR.
You can also check coppercoins.com as well as doubleddie.com
I seem to constantly talk about mechanical doubling vs a doubled die a lot. I created some educational posts on my web site and in my signature below so I wont have to say the same thing over and over again.Gary Kozera
Website: https://MintErrors.org
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Thank you for your reply. I had looked at variety vista, and I thought the spreading in the D of United and Sta of states looked a lot like the photos there, and that threw me. I thought there was slight spread and notching in the bases of other letters, but not as clear, so I thought it might be a later die state or wear on the coin. It definitely is a learning curve. I found your posts super helpful. Thank you!
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