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  • 1942 Walking Liberty- error ?

    I have a mystery that I am wanting get an overall opinion on.
    I have a Walking Libety coin with a wire embedded in it. I have been told that it is a scratch , but if you could take a closer look I think you will agree , it is obviously a wire.
    When this coin was minted it was common to use a wire brush for cleaning the hubs between strikes, and I believe this is a bristle from said brush. That makes it a mint error ..not damage right ?
    I found one other coin that had a similar wire and guess what it was? It was a Walking Liberty ! In 1982 it sold for 10,000.
    I have pictures of that coin that I downloaded. It looks similar , but mine looks even better.
    I want to submit some photos hat I took of my coin , if you look at the end you will notice a bend or like a notch and that looks to me exactly like where it was attached to a brush. And you can clearly see that this is not a scratch because it is ABOVE the surface in spots, not concave.
    Take a close look and please and give me your vote . Thank you !! Greatly appreciate the help from you guys.
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    In my opinion...There are two things to consider here.

    The other coin is in mint state, and mint state coins (uncirculated, as released from mint) or really high almost uncirculated coin, making it much more valuable than a highly circulated specimen. Auction sales are about drama and timing.... plus advertising the lot.

    The circulated coin - it looks like there is something there. But it looks loose. It doesn't look embedded into the coin. It looks shiny. To me, if it was struck through wire and it was as heavily circulated the wire would probably been slightly damaged and worn over the last 80 or so years. To me, it just looks odd, maybe off.

    I zoomed in as best as I can with the tablet, and I cannot convince myself it's a struck through wire, since I do not see the wire stuck into the coin. It's late and it's been a long day. I will revisit this tomorrow morning or late afternoon.

    I would wait for some other opinions.
    Gary Kozera
    Website: https://MintErrors.org

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    • #3
      I wanted to post these as they show the line of the object, leading to the edge. Also, you can see where the object actually enters the surface of coin. Thank you .
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      • #4
        Well , I guess no one else has an opinion on this. I am not giving up on my coin because in hand it is pretty clear to see what this is, and I know what it is. It's a piece of steel wool or wire . Just like the previous 1942 Walking Liberty coin that has a wire through it. That's a pretty huge coincidence that the only other coin like this happens to be the same exact coin. Same year.
        Granted the condition is far in grade , but it is what it is still.
        I am.surpised that after seeing the second set of pics that you have not commented on them. I am surprised because they show exactly what I said thay they show.
        Also I am.wondering why nonone else has piped in with their opinions.
        I guess I will juwt have to wait to find out from PCGS when they grade it. I was just looking for a little encouragement maybe.
        I will.not be posting about this again on here. I do not want to be an over- poster .

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        • #5
          Originally posted by tammym777 View Post
          Well , I guess no one else has an opinion on this. I am not giving up on my coin because in hand it is pretty clear to see what this is, and I know what it is. It's a piece of steel wool or wire . Just like the previous 1942 Walking Liberty coin that has a wire through it. That's a pretty huge coincidence that the only other coin like this happens to be the same exact coin. Same year.
          Granted the condition is far in grade , but it is what it is still.
          I am.surpised that after seeing the second set of pics that you have not commented on them. I am surprised because they show exactly what I said thay they show.
          Also I am.wondering why nonone else has piped in with their opinions.
          I guess I will juwt have to wait to find out from PCGS when they grade it. I was just looking for a little encouragement maybe.
          I will.not be posting about this again on here. I do not want to be an over- poster .
          A forgery, what you can see in the error publications is a lie.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tammym777 View Post
            Well , I guess no one else has an opinion on this. I am not giving up on my coin because in hand it is pretty clear to see what this is, and I know what it is. It's a piece of steel wool or wire . Just like the previous 1942 Walking Liberty coin that has a wire through it. That's a pretty huge coincidence that the only other coin like this happens to be the same exact coin. Same year.
            Granted the condition is far in grade , but it is what it is still.
            I am.surpised that after seeing the second set of pics that you have not commented on them. I am surprised because they show exactly what I said thay they show.
            Also I am.wondering why nonone else has piped in with their opinions.
            I guess I will juwt have to wait to find out from PCGS when they grade it. I was just looking for a little encouragement maybe.
            I will.not be posting about this again on here. I do not want to be an over- poster .

            I personally gave you my opinion on this coin. The other forum gave you opinions on this coin. I am a normal member on this forum, and I give an opinion and move on. Some time ago, I have turned off just about all notifications to keep my email from filling up with unnecessary notifications.

            This forum has a CONECA SERVICES area. Put a post under the examinations forum. Put as much info and the best photos in there. They may take some time to respond. They are volunteers...... it's a club, not a business.

            If you have an issue with the way this forum is run, contact Jamez . He is a CONECA staff member.

            You may not like what others have said about what it is, and over several months haven't sent it in as the other forum suggested. Here, if you read the forum rules, they state that some responses may take up to 10 days. What you may not get in time, the responses you do get are from seasoned error and variety collectors. I have over 50 years in the numismatic world and I call them like I see it.

            Getting a well circulated coin examined, authenticated and slabbed via a third party grading service is expensive for most people. I would not be surprised if it costs close to 100 bucks. With the coin being in a well circulated grade, it will be tough to get the return on investment back.even tougher if the coin has been cleaned.

            This is my last post on this subject.
            Gary Kozera
            Website: https://MintErrors.org

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ariel cabrera View Post

              A forgery, what you can see in the error publications is a lie.
              A FORGERY !!? Now why in the world would someone even think of forging this error on a old coin? !! Ridiculous . Give me a break . Boy you guys just find any way you can to bring someone down dont you ? Bunch of jerks if you ask me . Nay sayers and haters . Being mean and borderline rude to everyone who is not one of you. You know what ? The money from this little club of yours doesnt come from within your club, it comes from outsiders. The collectors. And you guys make it so closed in that no one even wants to deal with you guys anymore. You guys are doing nothing to promote the hobby at all except your magazine. Your just squabbling and chest puffing yourselves around over who is the top guy . What about the ones out here in the trenches coin roll searching keeping the dream alive , what about you guys tey to be more supportive huh? We ain't perfect . Geezz.. .

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tammym777 View Post

                A FORGERY !!? Now why in the world would someone even think of forging this error on a old coin? !! Ridiculous . Give me a break . Boy you guys just find any way you can to bring someone down dont you ? Bunch of jerks if you ask me . Nay sayers and haters . Being mean and borderline rude to everyone who is not one of you. You know what ? The money from this little club of yours doesnt come from within your club, it comes from outsiders. The collectors. And you guys make it so closed in that no one even wants to deal with you guys anymore. You guys are doing nothing to promote the hobby at all except your magazine. Your just squabbling and chest puffing yourselves around over who is the top guy . What about the ones out here in the trenches coin roll searching keeping the dream alive , what about you guys tey to be more supportive huh? We ain't perfect . Geezz.. .
                Which error are you talking about, the first photo or 2 and 3. The first photo although it looks like it is encapsulated has the same problem in (T), making a proper pressure could make that error but, the tire gives away the problem. As for the others, publish the complete photos and the specialists, who are very good, will be able to give their opinion.

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