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1958 D 1c ODV-010 Over ODV-021

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    I hope this image is better suited to this forum. 1958_D_1c_DDO_LoyVA2.JPG

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  • LoyVA2
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    I had six of these graded before I realized what they could be. I called the local coin dealer and had him look at this coin online. He said yes to obverse doubling and said he was interested in them when I get them verified. I then took three raw coins to the same dealer and his college grad assistant was emphatic yes to all three being DDO. That was two years ago. I invite you and all who would like to, to view these 6 coins online to get a better view. The numbers are sequential with the last 3 digits starting at 139 and ending at 144.

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  • LoyVA2
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    MintErrors, Thank you for your response, your expert opinion and advice. I rely on it. That is why I joined CONECA as a paying member, so I can pick the brains of experts like you. Thank you for your assistance! I have been sitting on these coins for about 5 years because I know they are not supposed to exist, as described. I took your advice about the pictures and bought some new equipment. I'll post new pictures next week after it gets here.

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  • MintErrors
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    In my opinion, the sole photo is not centered, it's tilted which does not offer a good chance to zoom in and see what is going on.

    ODV 10 was used in the 1920s to mid 1930s. ODV 21 was used during 1957 to 1959. IF this was used in this manner, the overdate would be so easily spotted and immediately destroyed. Plus, this would mean working dies are kept at the mint, retired for more than 20 + years.

    This is a 1958 year coin. If something like this existed, I believe it would have been found a long time ago. It's not about a single coin, the Lincoln working dies can strike up to one million coins before being retired. There are a lot of working dies made from the same working hub. All of these working dies were probably made in Philadelphia and shipped to other Mints. They would not need to rehub a working die to change a mintmark. Mintmarks were simply punched one over another. More that likely this is not the case, since nothing has been found from the 1958D Lincolns in respect to a repunched date and OMM for the past 65+ years.

    This diecappears to be in good enough shape not to be placed into an out of service status. The working dies taken out of service are late to very late die stage working dies who are close to or at the end of their service life. They are worn down and have the signs of eventual catastrophic fail.

    1944 and 1946 were the last Lincoln cents with an OMM. The last repunch date for copper coins was in the very early 1900s with the Indian Head cents. I don't remember when the last overdate on copper was performed.

    I suggest coming back at a later date and approach this hypothetical scenario logically. Most of the times, one should not take a leap of faith on the possibility of a single letter when in the mechanical world of the minting process, wierd thing happen allowing for coincidences to occur.
    Last edited by MintErrors; 07-07-2024, 11:33 AM.

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    started a topic 1958 D 1c ODV-010 Over ODV-021

    1958 D 1c ODV-010 Over ODV-021

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    Look at the G in GOD. It has the ODV-010 profile. Maybe a triple overdate and over mint mark as well. I think this is a retired San Francisco B/S die re-hubbed for the Denver mint.
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