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1996 P Lincoln 1c

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  • ap654
    • Jul 2024
    • 10

    1996 P Lincoln 1c

    Hello all, I have an odd error on the obverse of this coin. Any thoughts on what it is?
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  • MintErrors
    Minterrors.org
    • Jun 2015
    • 3597

    #2
    In my opinion, that coin is too far away. We need to see the obverse and reverse closer. Those photos have more background than coin.

    You can put the coin on the table.
    Place a sturdy box, about 6x6 or so in the table.
    Place the phone on top of box
    Turn the camera app on while it lays safely on box.
    Slide the coin next to box.
    Carefully slide phone over the edge until you can see the coin on the phone camera app.
    Center the coin, zoom in if needed.
    Steady phone with one hand while on box
    With other hand, lightly tap the photo app shutter to take photo.

    You can use a photo editing app to crop the photos, removing the unnecessary background. The icon for cropping may resemble a bent square. Some apps allow you to draw/create a box by lowering the top and sides of the photo.
    Last edited by MintErrors; 07-09-2024, 06:30 PM.
    Gary Kozera
    Website: https://MintErrors.org

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    • ap654
      • Jul 2024
      • 10

      #3
      Thank you for the tips, that worked a lot better!
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      • MintErrors
        Minterrors.org
        • Jun 2015
        • 3597

        #4
        In my opinion, if you cropped the top and bottom, in the future you may want to do the both sides to cut down on the photos size.

        The obverse of the coin appears to show two words, IN and GOD.
        It looks like one word might be backwards?
        That circular ring looks pressed down through the Lincoln cent.
        That ring is probably a rim from another coin.
        That ring also damages the rim of the Lincoln cent.

        The working dies that strike the blanks into coins don't have rims.
        If this was done at the mint, with the many tons of pressure they use, the reverse would have been affected. Since all coins that are struck have obverse and reverse dies.

        This kind of resembles something known as a vise job.
        People do odd things to coins once they hit circulation.
        Then laughing with glee, throw them back into circulation.

        Others may chime in, please be patient.
        I will try to download these photosand see if I can make out what letters those are and see if I can tell what's going on.
        Gary Kozera
        Website: https://MintErrors.org

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        • ap654
          • Jul 2024
          • 10

          #5
          Was able to get a better picture.
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          • MintErrors
            Minterrors.org
            • Jun 2015
            • 3597

            #6
            Looking at this photo upside down, the extra impression is all backwards.
            I don't know what other denomination, US or foriegn uses IGWT at the rim of a coin. It MIGHT be from a Presidential dollar, but I am not sure.

            Being that it is backwards and the Lincoln cent rim is damaged plus the rim is present on the extra impression, makes this really suspicious. I am leaning heavily towards post mint damage (PMD), something that was done after it left the mint. I'll

            Again, others may offer their opinions soon.
            Last edited by MintErrors; 07-10-2024, 01:04 AM.
            Gary Kozera
            Website: https://MintErrors.org

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            • occnumis2021
              NumisScholar
              • May 2021
              • 1443

              #7
              Originally posted by MintErrors View Post
              Looking at this photo upside down, the extra impression is all backwards.
              I don't know what other denomination, US or foriegn uses IGWT at the rim of a coin. It MIGHT be from a Presidential dollar, but I am not sure.

              Being that it is backwards and the Lincoln cent rim is damaged plus the rim is present on the extra impression, makes this really suspicious. I am leaning heavily towards post mint damage (PMD), something that was done after it left the mint. I'll

              Again, others may offer their opinions soon.
              my thought is a jefferson. not a new one and when it would be face-to-face with abe, the lettering is backwards when impressed.

              however they did it, some effort was put forth (cuz IGWT isn't fully into the other IGWT oddly enough) but i agree the coin looks spurious. the vise or whatever job also caught abes front hair curl too.

              it is a coin i'd like to have been able to seen pro images of, for learning and posterity.
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              • ap654
                • Jul 2024
                • 10

                #8
                Thank you both for the information! Very interesting.

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                • MIMS.2Cents
                  erra,erra,Error
                  • Feb 2024
                  • 100

                  #9
                  Just My 2 Cents,
                  Nice, lol the rev “United” on the rim is a dead give to a vice job I agree “imo”
                  but cool find

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