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2007 P Dime
I came across this 2007 P Dime. While examining the reverse side the word America looked kinda off to me. Taking a closer look it looks like the E and C and M could be some kind of doubling or maybe just distorted. I have some super close ups with my digital microscope and then some pictures with just my phone camera and a regular magnifying glass. What do you guys think?You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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this probably belongs in the variety forum.
if you have a smart phone, it is possible it takes better images.
as you can see from THIS link, there are none known for the year/mm, so the odds of finding a new one are miniscule but keep looking as that is how discoveries are made. you can also check THIS link as wexler will list things wiles won't, usually very minor ddo/rpm but i'm glad he does it as a ddo is a ddo.coinfacts.com - conecaonline.info - board.conecaonline.org/forum/numismatic-site-links - briansvarietycoins.com - coppercoins.com - cuds-on-coins.com - doubleddie.com - error-ref.com - franklinlover.yolasite.com - ikegroup.info -lincolncentresource.com - maddieclashes.com - money.org - ngccoin.com/price-guide/world - ngccoin.com/census - ngccoin.com/resources/counterfeit-detection - nnp.wustl.edu - pcgs.com/pop - pcgs.com/coinfacts - pcgs.com/photograde - varietyvista.com - vamworld.com
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Originally posted by AmyCGR View PostI came across this 2007 P Dime. While examining the reverse side the word America looked kinda off to me. Taking a closer look it looks like the E and C and M could be some kind of doubling or maybe just distorted. I have some super close ups with my digital microscope and then some pictures with just my phone camera and a regular magnifying glass. What do you guys think?
Things like this that look like doubled dies are confusing for some. Important things to note are:
1, Doubled dies are multiple impressions on a steel working die. These impressions are typically done withe the same amount of pressure. One impression will be slight off from the other and it it can be seen withaa naked eye or 10-20x magnification, there is a chance that it could be listed as a doubled die.
2. With the impressions sunk into the working die, are raised on the coin. That means that most of the times, those multiple impressions should be at the same height on the coin, or close to it.
3. Since these working dies are steel, the impressions in the working die, which has the doubling will not move. You should see from the attributors examples where the doubling should be. That area is what you should see on the coin in hand.
4. People in general try to compare one year of doubled die to another year. That does not work. Every working die is different, and if doubling is present, its typically unique to that particular working die. Don't confuse yourself with comparing it to another year.
5 When MACHINE Doubling shows up, it is usually lower than the other impression and step or shelf-like. https://doubleddie.com has a section called "worthless doubling" that compares doubled dies to machine doubling. Machine doubling usually makes the devices ( letters numbers, buildings, animals etc) thinner or damaged.
6. Look at the year of the coin. If it is decades old, and there is no listing for that exact coin, it very well may not be a doubled die. Sure there is a minute chance that it could be a new discovery, but the chances are very slim.
I suggest trying this at home. if you have some play-doh, roll a piece out the size of a coffee cup saucer.
Place a large coin or medallion thats not collectible into the play-doh, pressing firmly down having the coin sink about half deep in the play-doh.
Carefully remove the coin.
Wait a few seconds, and try to place that coin close to the way it was back into that same place.
Carefully remove the coin once again and examine the impressions.
If the placement of the coin into the void the second time was off, thats what a working die might look like when a doubled die was made.
Your could fill the void with something that might solidify and then remove it when it is solid, to see what a coin like that would look like.
Just be careful and mindful of chemicals if used and be well ventilated or outside when doing this.
I dunno if Jello would work... hahahaha. IF so, don't eat your experiment !
Coin collecting is rewarding. Hunting for varieties and errors is time consuming, relaxing, enjoyable and frustration. There may be more disappointments than rewards. Sometimes the bell ringer can be a nice major find and erase some of those disappointing times. How you search and what you search is key to the success rate. There are lots of ways to get better results, but its important to stay within a budget. From BU rolls, or rolls/boxes/bags from the bank or business online, it take a bit of research to see if they sell varieties and errors and may have already searched those rolls. Sometimes people who sell items not related to coins may have unsearched rolls for sale. Target years that may have varieties and errors and hope they have a handful of varieties within the roll. Nothing is a guarantee and one has to accept the risk, investment, time and energy to finding those bell ringers that are occasionally out there.
Happy Hunting.Gary Kozera
Website: https://MintErrors.org
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