toned soap bar !

[occnumis2021]

doing more diggin into the old images, found this little cutie.

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[MintErrors]

In my opinion.... and take this with a grain of salt. I was told that the extremely old holders of ANACS were graded ultra strict. When SOME of them are turned in for regarding, some may recieve a grade point (or more) higher. I guess it depends on whether the cost is effective, and the addirion potential grade will achieve a good bump in value.

[occnumis2021]

In my opinion.... and take this with a grain of salt. I was told that the extremely old holders of ANACS were graded ultra strict. When SOME of them are turned in for regarding, some may recieve a grade point (or more) higher. I guess it depends on whether the cost is effective, and the addirion potential grade will achieve a good bump in value.

agreed.

one of the biggest challenge for some, keep the old collectable holder or lose it and gain value.

although after C19 sales, it would have seemed that leaving <$2-500 coins in their old holders was the way to go?

[MintErrors]

Some auction houses offer old style holder auctions in order to stimulate a bidding war for them. The problem is, the bidders may overpay for them resulting in lower value increase vs cost. Then, they would have to research If they wanted to take advantage of a potential grade/value hike.

It depends on the mission of the collector. If they are looking for the something in their personal collection to pass down or to brag about a better registry set on a major third party grading site, it might be beneficial.

I do get a fair share of older ANACS style holders. I am not one to send these in to another TPG to see if they'd grade higher. In my opinion, ANACS does/did grade stricter, and sending it in somewhere else might prove beneficial. But there is cost, risk and time involved.

I sent in a 20 coin submission to ANACS not too long ago and in took close to 90 days total to come back. These were very recognizable and popular varieties like top 100 and FS Lincolns. Most were uncirculated. With the rising costs of sending them in, and the ludicrous time it's taking to be done, it's simply a deal breaker for now on.

[occnumis2021]

ngl, that turnaround time astonished me. i thought we were all past that kinda thing. wonder what the prob is? surely they have in-house attributors and not having to wait for someone to be avail?

[MintErrors]

I know a senior ANACS rep, and he says he does not know why the delay. It makes it difficult to send in items planning wise. To wait that long and pay close to 500 to get 20 varieties slabbed was painful. But the good news is they were dramatic. When the sell, the buyer will absorb the exact per coin slabbing fees. So IF I decide to sending any more, they need to be sent in the sprimg time, with expectations of them arriving by summer.

[Paddy54]

Not a happy camper with Anacs...in fact won't deal with them any longer. To much drama , you get what you pay for...and sometimes at Anacs you don't. I've been in the food business over 50 years!

and just saying hamburger cost less than steak... paying hamburger prices won't get you a steak. Yeah true may taste similar but it's not a T-bone.
when you pay $10 @ coin then add the fee's for varieties and then postage ....and 90% of your customer base not interested in anything but the top 2 TPG's slabs... not worth it... as everyone wants varieties...no one wants to pay a premium for them.
I find it interesting that in many cases the customers will buy a soap bar, Fatty, or 1st gen PCI green label slabs. Over a Anacs slab.
with the same coin in the slab meaning the same date ,mintmark ,series.

[MintErrors]

I have to say, if you take the free shipping to ANACS via a rep, then you add 14 bucks for a slab. Then Let's say 10 bucks for variety fee and let's say 40 bucks for return shipping to include shipping and insurance.

The ANACS slab isn't the cutest. IF NGC was cheaper, it would be my go to TPG. unfortunately, they are close to 22 bucks to slab, 18 bucks for varieties and return shipping should be close to the same. NGC charges a submission fee per order which is 10 bucks. So, in reality... or close to it. We're talking close to 800+ bucks for 20 coins via NGC?

That's not including any membership fees via NGC. I don't know what costs are for PCGS. In my opinion, PCGS is not my favorite TPG. Some of the costs are absurd like 75 fee for a mint error?

I used to work in network security. I have seen the evolution of fraud growing for al out two decades before I happily retired. With other countries creating counterfeits, copies, replicas or whatever they want to to call them, some people want to ensure they get authentic merchandise.

A doubled edge sword, that is for sure. Morgan Dollars sell really well for us. Errors as well. Whe possible, I get those coins already slabbed from reputable places, cutting downon costs and time.

[Paddy54]

Would you believe $12 ? 20240609_144627.jpg

[occnumis2021]

Would you believe $12 ?

a gift at that price!

[Paddy54]

I love circam's tootu0dinhsi91d-01-01.jpeg

[Paddy54]

19250-1.jpgone of my h 10 favorite

[Paddy54]

However this soap bar is quite sought after 20230127_142000.jpg

[occnumis2021]

However this soap bar is quite sought after

while common as dirt, this era of mex 20 cent series, i've owned hundreds? in red unc. it MUST be tough in an old holder like that though!

just because i haven't done it in a long time, i looked up your coin and this is what i saw:

https://portal.anacs.com/Verify/Cert...px?cert=462340 (not sure if it shows this page properly for those not logged in)

while there are/were 200+ subbed, i doubt many survived. a presumption but probably a safe one.

[Paddy54]

while common as dirt, this era of mex 20 cent series, i've owned hundreds? in red unc. it MUST be tough in an old holder like that though!

just because i haven't done it in a long time, i looked up your coin and this is what i saw:

https://portal.anacs.com/Verify/Cert...px?cert=462340 (not sure if it shows this page properly for those not logged in)

while there are/were 200+ subbed, i doubt many survived. a presumption but probably a safe one.

There's two on the bay in ms 66 @ $85. Ea. Thanks for the data