1981 D Lincoln Penny DDO? "Ducklip"

[dollykm12]

Tried to find out somewhere else before here, and I was told it was a form of double strike?
Would love to hear what you guys think. TYIA WIN_20241205_13_20_38_Pro.jpg

[MintErrors]

In my opinion, it's either

A small fragment from machine doubling.
This coin looks like it was struck by a very late die stage working die.
The coin does not show a very sharp or strong strike.

It may be a start of die chips or cracks as well. It is in one of the deepest parts of the working die, so debris, pressure and much more comes into play.

It looks like there is something near his eye, but that has been cropped out of the photo.

With the single photo, that's the best answer I can give.

[dollykm12]

Thank you!@ i apologize. I started this post a few times and downloaded more pics , but kept messing up post. lol 20241205_132241.jpg

[MintErrors]

dollykm12

On the back of Lincoln's head west of the ear, it looks like there is a good sized crack. There appears to be another that goes from the earlobe and heads southeast. So more than likely, the area in question is die chip/die crack related.

[MintErrors]

One other thing. There are many die maintenance scratches near his forehead on the field (flat part of the coin). It could be abraded (scratch) related.

[dollykm12]

Thank you. I learned alot right here.

Probably just me, but i see another tie. Difference in his coat and the places you spoke of, could it have been turned and struck leaving marks only where there was higher metal content? Like the back of his head actually part of a face from bad strike? I am not trying to make this coin into anything more than one of my puzzles. lol. I am going to find app to try an overlay pic to check it out. Thank you again!!

[MintErrors]

In my opinion, it would have to be turned when it was being held by the collar, which keeps the coin in the proper position when being struck. That means when you do an overlay, it must stay within the same area of the coin that you have. The 2nd photo within the overlay cannot be off center or touch the rim with any coin design.

It's complicated to explain, but I will try.

The working die has an image pressed into (sunk into) the die. So, when coins are minted, what is sunk into the die, is raised up on the coin as its being squeezed together by many tons of force.

So, if the die moves in a circular motion, potentially for a second strike, the flat fields of the die are now located in a different area. With all that force, the working dies should squash flat anything that was risen. But, it should show something was there. In order to see what I am trying to say, you would have to understand the minting process and if you research "double struck in collar", it may explain it better.

https://www.error-ref.com/mutiple-strike-in-out-collar/

In the link above, look at the east (right side) of the Lincoln cent reverse near the rim. The obverse shows some hints, but not as bold or obvious as the reverse. It was struck in collar, meaning it kept its round shape. You can barely see the remnants of that first strike. Most of the first strike was smashed flat, almost obliterated by the 2nd strike. There has to be significant hints that absolutely must line up in an overlay in order to prove the theory. You will have to scrutinize the obverse and reverse of your coin for hints. We only have photos of the obverse.