seperation

[jim b]

what does it mean when its said seperation of the letters is it the spacing between the letters or the letters look wider than normal

[HeartWith02]

A reference to what? Where are you seeing/reading this?

[jim b]

ive seen that on other groups stating that about doubled dies sometimes i thought maybe i was missing something

[MintErrors]

what does it mean when its said seperation of the letters is it the spacing between the letters or the letters look wider than normal

Three Things pop into my head when the statement above is lacking any additional information. A little more amplifying information about the subject matter you are referring to might help a tad. Is it realed to one of these?!

Doubled Die Obverse or Doubled Die Reverse (DDO / DDR)

Re-punched Mint marks (RPM's)

Close or Wide AM on Lincoln Cents

Now which one?

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Let's "assume" that you mean Doubled Dies.

If you are talking about Doubled Dies, then yes, there is usually a separation between each punching of that specific working die. Doubled Dies refer to more two or more impressions on a working die that if offset can show a doubled, tripled or quadrupled die. These were a little more popular before the mid 1990's

THE key thing to try to comprehend is it is an additional punching and the images should be nearly at the same height. It's important to know this as machine doubling, strike doubling, machine damage or whatever you want to call it can look similar, but those are damage and not a doubled die. They look like a mini bucket loader took away part of the letters.

If you think you have a doubled die, go to http://varietyvista.com

See if yours matches up very closely to one of them listed on that site.

I will see if I can locate a good example or two of a "classic" doubled die.


A "thickness" variety of a DDO is best matched up with a coin of the exact same year and mintmark.

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Doubled Dies, even with a slight separation, especially on larger coins can be quite dramatic.
Look at the Kennedy placard closely you will see split serifs and a "cookie cutter" style line through many of the letters.
That is where one image was impressed right over the top of another image.
NOTE that there is no obvious damage and that most of the devices (letters numbers buildings etc) are at the same height.

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Some are just WAY obvious and can practically be seen by the naked eye
This includes the 1955 Lincoln Cent doubled die
The 1969-S Lincoln Cent doubled die
and die #1 of the 1972 Lincoln Cent doubled die

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[HeartWith02]

Great post MintErrors! Let's see if he comes back.

[jim b]

Thank you all im new so this all helps a lot

[HeartWith02]

Welcome back Jim b, thought you left.

[jim b]

still here just got back home

[MintErrors]

Thank you all im new so this all helps a lot

1. Just let us know the coin type you are talking about.
2. Let us know what you think it is.... doubled die, re-punched mintmark or an error (errors have their own forum here)
3. It helps if we know the year and mintmark if any.

Pictures are worth a thousand words. If you do not understand how to submit photos, please ask in a new post in the right forum area.

Photos should be of the area in question. A full photo of the obverse and reverse of the coin can help a lot too.

Not too much light. Drape a sheer cloth over a light. Position the coin to get a few good pics.

Remove the cloth from the light.

When taking the photos, make sure they do not get blurry. If using a cell phone, increase the size rather than simply holding the phone close to the coin. Tap the screen once so the camera app knows to try to focus on the area tapped. Gently push the go! button to snap the photo as to limit the potential shake of the camera.

You may have to reduce the size of the photos. If so, open up any type of photo editor and find where you can change the size of a photo. They should keep the size orientation so it will not look stretched or funky. Generically a photo of say about 1000 x about 1000 is usually big enough.

When asked what size you want to attach to the post, "medium" or "large" is best.

Welcome aboard, CONECA members of all types are here to assist you about your coin questions when needed, (time permitting).