1961D RPM

[jsellards]

Wanted to pass along thank to Maria and others for the nice RPM included in the welcome back Package. Not 100 percent sure however looks
like #19. The coin 1961D is BU and might grade as high as MS 65. Take a look and let me know 1961D 5 a.jpg 1961D 2 A.jpg 1961D 3 A.jpg 1961D 1 A.jpg 1961D 4 A.jpg The coin still has as shown some Mint Mud and also looks like it may be Off Center.
Thanks Maria

[MintErrors]

Wecome back ! We are glad to see you and your coin.

CONECA forum protocols frown on grading and pricing as this is very subjective opinions. So you probably won't get too many answers on the grading side of the house. Just letting you know for future posts.

Another thing - third party grading services grade the obverse and then grade the reverse, they then combine those grades and give the coin an overall grade.

The coin how ever, for the obverse is a beauty and it looks like an RPM for sure. I can see a vertical line in the center of the mintmark. I will confess, I have hundreds of these 1961 RPM's and I have not attributed a lot of them.

http://varietyvista.com has a lot of the 1961-D RPM's listed. Your photos for me, are simply too far, or has too much glare to determine a good match, but some that might be close are RPM 22, 34, 35, 36 and a few others. Some of the die markers and the exact placement of where the mint mark is located is very important.

[jsellards]

Thanks for the comments. Adding two more pictures The MM is some what better and does show detail west. 1961D 7 A.jpg 1961D 6 A.jpg

[Kloccwork419]

What is the reason for grading? This is a very minor RPM. A nice coin but not worth very much to get graded. Even if you use ANACS

Like Gary, I have tubes of 60D and 61D RPMs that I really have no interest in attributing. They just go in the tube and maybe someday Ill get to, but unlikely

[jsellards]

Thanks again. Not real interested in the grade, however for some crazy reason when I have an RPM I try to identify. In as much as it was a gift
from CONECA I wanted to express my thanks and also find an identification number.

[Kloccwork419]

Well thats good. Theres so many similar ones. Good luck on the attribution

[MintErrors]

Thanks for the comments. Adding two more pictures The MM is some what better and does show detail west.

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So, photos are nice, but really weird angles do not help much. If the pics are angled at 90, 180 or 270 degrees, then those can be manipulated to the upright position after some one downloads it. It takes patience and practice with lighting.

In my opinion, it is better to have less light than to deal with glare.

I would like to see the date and the mintmark about as centered as you can get it.

What this will do is allow me to look at the mintmark location and get a very good idea where the mintmark is. Then, looking at the examples on http://varietyvista.com we should be able to find a match that way as well. Each mintmark that was placed on a working die is generally a bit different, so the date and mintmark photo will make the attribution a bit easier.

Additionally while you have the coin in hand, the RPM possibilities on VarietyVista will offer some additional photos that might show some markers or pick up points. These are done in different die stages, and most markers will not be on all die stages. This may help with the attribution as well.


I will include the lighting levels I use. It can take a while to get the lighting just right. This is what I do to make my life a bit easier:

1. I use a large monitor, but I have it set to default levels. This way, what I am seeing should be OK with anyone who may adjust their monitors up or down. This way the brightness and contrast levels are not too terribly high or low.

2. I use up to three lights to make the picture look good.

3. I use different thickness of sheer white cloth to cover the Sunlight LED bulbs I use.If need be, it can be layered to diffuse the lighting.

On a whim, in about 10 minutes I pulled a random 1961-D RPM from a roll, placed it on the microscope and took these photos. practice, persistence and patience pays off in the long run.

1961-D RPM-x4.jpg


1961-D RPM-x8.jpg

[MintErrors]

I downloaded your mintmark photo and reduced the lighting. I can see that small point sticking out on the curve of the primary "D". But to me, your vertical line seems to be more centered than RPM 19. on varietyvista RPM 020 seems to be close, but matching up the mint mark positioning is vital.

[jsellards]

When I first posted I referred to my coin as #19. I should have stated Copper Coins MM 019 and not 100 percent sure. With the Varietyvista RPM 020
comment above I reviewed that site and did see some pick up pointes.I had made the mistake thinking both were the same number. Thanks for all the help
I just need to learn how to take better pictures .

[Kloccwork419]

Yours isnt RPM-20. Plus, 1MM-019 is RPM-019. Yours looks more like 19

[MintErrors]

When I first posted I referred to my coin as #19. I should have stated Copper Coins MM 019 and not 100 percent sure. With the Varietyvista RPM 020
comment above I reviewed that site and did see some pick up pointes.I had made the mistake thinking both were the same number. Thanks for all the help
I just need to learn how to take better pictures .

It takes a bit to understand the different naming conventions/cross referencing. I am one who uses varietyvista a lot since the ones listed there are more than likely going to have a CONECA number.

Hopefully in the end you can find a match, just remember the exact location of the mint mark position on your coin should match up with what is seen on the researcher's example as well.