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[Trent Boothe]

I have a 1964 penny that I believe is not a result of damage, the part that's out of it is further than it would be. Than if it was back in, there's no cracking where the splits off from 0. And it has a rounded edge
I thought it was damaged at first, but there's a couple of things that make me reconsider

[Dutch-Tigger]

I have a 1964 penny that I believe is not a result of damage, the part that's out of it is further than it would be. Than if it was back in, there's no cracking where the splits off from 0. And it has a rounded edge
I thought it was damaged at first, but there's a couple of things that make me reconsider

Greetings, I have seen this on OP`s coins at other forums many time over the years, and as then here you can clearly see the PMD just to the right of the "O" as it headed towards the "O" and subsequently damaging the raised letter. The simple facts of how Dies are manufactured from Master Hub > Master Dies > Working Hubs > Working Dies = coin There is no way a different letter would be in the design without this being discovered by Inspection through many steps along the way. If it were to have slipped by then we coin collectors would all know about it. Out of the 3,799,071,500 minted that year about 1,000,000 would have been struck by the suspect Die, give or take and 100`s of 1,000 of eyeballs looking at coins every new year of production, someone would have found the Error. So just chock this up to a PMD Oddity
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[Trent Boothe]

So there's no chance that might have stuck to the die. It was lifted up and moved out of the way it fell back into that place no chance of that.

[Trent Boothe]

I have one other coin. I would like you to look at. It's a nineteen nineteen dime the last two numbers

[Trent Boothe]

If I'm mistaken I apologize but the PMD to the right of it is also below were it starts it turn in to make a G the turn in isnt cracked bent or built up there isn't any marks were it would make the O if the PMD happened there wouldn't there be marks there not beside it or below it also

[Dutch-Tigger]

So there's no chance that might have stuck to the die. It was lifted up and moved out of the way it fell back into that place no chance of that.

This would mean that a Double Strike event , and there’s no sign of such an event.
As I mentioned earlier examples of the GGD had been posted in other forums that I am affiliated with
and the same reason I and others explained the impossibility of this happening without notice, is the same reason here. It’s been a PMD Oddity at best.
No need to apologize for asking questions about the the unknown for you, it’s forum’s like this that we learn so much from the experts that have been here before us, and share their knowledge with us.
Now for the other coin, I’m quite certain they will want you to post it on a new thread so as not to introduce confusion.

[Trent Boothe]

Did you get a chance to look at the dime I posted

[Trent Boothe]

OK I will put a new post thank againyou

[Trent Boothe]

OK I post mint damage I get that but the damage is below the bend plus so are the marks that show the damage the bent is a bend that could not have happened with out heat I work with metal there would at the least be a Crack or a build up of metal it wouldn't be such a 45 with out Visible damage to the bent part of the O that is to clean of a 45 now whether someone toyed with it in there shop I don't know but one thing is for sure is that kind of bend doesn't happen with out heat so you are so Absolutely sure that there is no way that part of that. O, got stuck to the die at press, and when it came out and moved the coin out of the way it couldn't have done that absolutely positively, though. That could have happened because I know that's not a bend cause by pressure

[MintErrors]

In ,y opinion, the Lincoln cent planchet you have that was made into a coin, it a rolled piece of metal. When the dies strike that coin, there is a lot of things that could go wrong. This one looks like a freak event, more than likely lamination related. Was it altered out in circulation ? I dunno. It's circulated and that adds 50% or more uncertainty for most coins.

It's difficult to assess the so-called exact science of this through a set of average photos. What you see under the loupe or microscope might be totally differrent than what I might see and look for.

Knowing the entire process on how coins are minted is crucial to understanding what could have went wrong during the minting of a coin. Guessing does not give a person an accurate answer. A logical approach, with something that makes sense, makes questions disappear.

I don't want to flog a dead horse forever, so this is it.... If you feel an urge to send this to athird party grading service for anywhere from 50 to 100+ bucks, and one might receive closure, but it would be more of a costly learning event.

Add a post in this forum under EXAMINATIONS. The CONECA staff should look at the coin and offer their opinion. That service is typically low cost or free in most cases.

[Trent Boothe]

I can expect that thank you