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1955D Lincoln LDB4, or not quite?
I found these 2 different 1955 D Lincoln cents, that look kinda like they are LDB4-1955D BIE, except they just arent as dramatic, extending ABOVE and BELOW, the letters. OR does it even qualify as a LDB? I have some REALLY NICE cracked skulls from 1955, a couple are in pretty decent shape, i will post pictures when i get a second. I think you may like as well, i think Ive seen pics of the same coins i have, on here already, so, maybe im headed in the right direction after all! THANK YOU to ALL, who have helped me learn and gain insight from your knowledge and experience, in the field, I appreciate it all, and I strive for more , as i slowly downsize my collection. Funny thing, my collection seems to be GROWING, not shrinking!You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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They are certainly BIEs, or LDB4s. Even a small die crack between the letters is considered to be in the family of LDB4. Jean Cohen classified all these types as BIEs, but separated them by strength, calling the minor ones which don't fill at least part of the space between the letters as "Associated BIEs" using the BAXXX nomenclature. If a significant part of the space is fully filled, she called them "Full BIEs" using the BXXX nomenclature. I can't quite tell which BIE yours is but for sure it's a Full BIE.
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Thank you Ray. I appeciate the nod that they are LDB4'S, as i KNOW you are a leading member and contibutor to the forums, and I believe you are a man whose opinion carries weight, as an expert,as I have seen MANY photos taken of coins by you on this and other sites.I want to say, cuds on coins, Ive seen QUITE a few taken by you, and to be honest, it feels good to FIND something that people in the know, concur with as being an ACTUAL find. Im not going out looking for these coins, just old coins gathered up, over the years and tossed in a jar, or two, and its exciting to me to find these neat little coins still floating around out there, i KNOW ill be checking my wheat cents before rolling for storage and eventual sales by my kids; as I dont like selling my coins, really, and id much rather do a trade or a swap. BUT its almost time to sell, being on a fixed income and coming up short, with kids,is NOT an option I am willing to put them through if i dont have to. And if our economy gets much worse, the sale of my collection becomes more inevitable to me, unfortunately. BUT with dilligence and research, ill be able to market and sell to the right people looking for that special coin. Your experience and expertise has helped me identify, CORRECTLY, many unique coins so far, and I THANK YOU again for taking the time to give me thorough, thought out and informational answers to my questions, I have learned MUCH, and hope to learn MORE. Your Friend in Numismatics, Scott.
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Jean did a great job in her book the 1969 edition of “THE CLASSIFICATION AND VALUE OF ERRORS ON THE LINCOLN CENT”. But “The BIE MINT ODDITY COLLECTOR”S GUILD founded by Joseph F. Bush in 1965. Published the “BIE Handbook” Edited by Howard O Hardy as published in 1972 for the Guild. It has the Hardy Index System. It’s by far the best way to catalog BIE errors. Using it you can apply a date/MM, size, and location to any BIE. See the links below.
Hardy Index System : Cuds on Coins (cuds-on-coins.com)
Lincoln Cent Die Breaks Called “BIE” : Cuds on Coins (cuds-on-coins.com)
The images aren't the best, but it looks to be a 55D-4DL
“DL” indicates a break of ½ or more, but less than ¾ "lower" die break.Last edited by JC Stevens; 09-10-2023, 12:42 PM.
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Originally posted by JC Stevens View PostJean did a great job in her book the 1969 edition of “THE CLASSIFICATION AND VALUE OF ERRORS ON THE LINCOLN CENT”. But “The BIE MINT ODDITY COLLECTOR”S GUILD founded by Joseph F. Bush in 1965. Published the “BIE Handbook” Edited by Howard O Hardy as published in 1972 for the Guild. It has the Hardy Index System. It’s by far the best way to catalog BIE errors. Using it you can apply a date/MM, size, and location to any BIE. See the links below.
Hardy Index System : Cuds on Coins (cuds-on-coins.com)
Lincoln Cent Die Breaks Called “BIE” : Cuds on Coins (cuds-on-coins.com)
The images aren't the best, but it looks to be a 55D-4DL
“DL” indicates a break of ½ or more, but less than ¾ "lower" die break.
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Excellent information that I will definitely use if and when I can get around to attributing all of the ones that I have gathered up over the years. I was born in 1971, so Ive known about, and collected the BIE coins since I was 10 or 11 years old,but never really paid much of my attention to them, other than snagging them and putting them into a jar. I had forgotten all about them, until recently, when I stumbled into one thinning out my collection, and THAT has gotten me going again, as I am about to end a major time comsuming effort, the full restoration and upgrade of a 68 Chevy Camaro, and something will need to occupy my time, lol! And why not my coins with the BIE and other odd, weird, eye catchers that I have collected during my travel and work for the DOD, US West and others all across the country, generate a LOT of change living hard, away from home on per diem,and I kept most all of it. That was fun going thru security, I tell you, and if they DIDNT spill them EVERYWHERE I wouldnt have even mentioned it. Oh, and YES, they did pick them up for me, as a "courtesy" that made me chuckle, haha!
Thanks again, the numbering system info, and Ive been going to cuds on coins for a couple years off and on I want to say, , since a cancer diagnosis, has basically left me with too much time inside, lol, and soon no car to force me out into the heat for more than I need to, resources are a key for my proper thinning of what I want to keep, and I REALLY like the BIE and other skull cracks that have found homes out here with me, and the proper way to label them will only surely help my loved ones if the diagnosis gets me before I want or need to sell them myself. And I still have thousands of unsearched wheats to go through and I have one or two that are, or were NOT listed from the 20's or early 30's to find again. They have just gotten absorbed over the years, and moves. Those books you referenced, especially Jean's book, being harder or more costly to find than the coins being described, from what I could discern from a quick search, but sounds like an AMAZING book/tool to have. Gotta go finish on the car for a bit, THANK YOU again for taking your time with answering me, Scott.
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