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Can we tell if a zinc 1982 die struck a copper 1982 planchet

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  • Can we tell if a zinc 1982 die struck a copper 1982 planchet

    The first 3 pictures are of a 1983 Rev.

    a slim margin of die wear affecting the striking through the plating is above some letters.

    The slim form is seen nearly above OF on a copper 1982D Large Date. Then an appearance of the more well known wide stretch above a letter (1992 cent…etc) where usual plating striking would have been, above AMERICA-E.

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    dies are not assigned Zinc or copper... they are die steel metal.
    CONECA Attributer: John Miller

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    • #3
      Right. I’m just saying we know wear creates a different pattern, that’s why plating is punctured along the rim, it’s from what’s built up on the die, making what would otherwise be incuse impressions. Zinc planchets are electroplated fully, not rolled with plating. It is a dipping bath, which copper becomes attracted by the ions charge applied to the bath the zinc planchets are placed in. People need to know that when figuring well, how does the plating become punctured above letters on coins? It’s the die wear. Zinc is a harder material than copper.

      We do know some copper planchets were reached again in the later stages of strikes, like 1983. So, it’s likely zinc forms of wear can be seen on copper planchets.
      Last edited by signofthedimes; 10-14-2023, 05:04 PM.

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      • #4
        ? there is no different build up on a die no mater which type of cent was struck by that die. the split of the plating on some copper plated cents is because the copper plating was not thick enough and the pressure of the press caused it to stretch and split... it has nothing to do with build up or Die wear. so no the die does not change from copper plated zinc cents.
        CONECA Attributer: John Miller

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        • #5
          Originally posted by onecent1909 View Post
          ? there is no different build up on a die no mater which type of cent was struck by that die. the split of the plating on some copper plated cents is because the copper plating was not thick enough and the pressure of the press caused it to stretch and split... it has nothing to do with build up or Die wear. so no the die does not change from copper plated zinc cents.
          We’ll I have a better question, then. If DDD causes raised secondary images being the same dies, why does the splitting only happen along those lines if it reached the zinc to raise it to coincide with raised DDD plating? Why only along DDD does zinc seem to? Not on top of the date, or a letter, or Lincoln’s nose or ear, the other highest points if highest points are more readily susceptible. Metal does fill crevices for DDD. Incuse ridges are ddd on zinc coins.

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          • #6
            Here’s the large two in which then we would not see the incuse impression usually seen in split plating wear normally seen shadowing the large two on large date zinc coins.

            But we see the incuse impression where we usually do.


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            • #7
              DDD... what is DDD? do you mean doubled dies? what is DDD plating?? no... a die is hubbed. The hubbing process it was causes a doubled die. nothing to do with plating or not plating. as stated the split plating is on the coin not the die. you need to work on learning the how coins are made and how dies are made and doubled dies.... Enjoy.
              CONECA Attributer: John Miller

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