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  • 1836 Capped Bust 25C with struck thru error?

    Hi all, I'm wondering if this mark on my 25C is a strike thru error? There are a few notable things to me about this coin that lead me to believe this is not PMD

    #1) The wound on the eagle shows parts of the shield in the recess - it's definitely not a cut, but a depression. The depression is only on the high points, not in the field.
    #2) On the obverse, there is a small wire like ridge in the hair - when looked at through a 40x magnifier it is definitely raised, and again, not raised like I would expect to see next to a deep scratch.

    I know this coin isn't in the best of shape, but I love it nonetheless - I'd be grateful for your input.
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    nice to see some older coinage for a change.

    gotta say, it all looks like PMD to me from the images and the images are decent. (i'll leave a 1% chance there is a strike-through on the coin cuz i really need bigger/clearer images to be 100%, for my part) - i did copy them to my pc to blow up much larger fwiw.

    i would say why i think this but you've essentially mentioned all the reasons.

    before you ask (as people usually do), this is pocket change, it has circulated and during some rough times no doubt. there are thousands of things that could have caused all the various pmd gouges on the rev.

    hope others give input but remember, the more effective images that are provided, the more effective opinions can be given.

    feel free to re-upload 1 image with arrow(s) to make sure i've seen precisely what you see.

    happy hunting
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    • #3
      Here's a link to an album with higher resolution photos. Thank you for taking the time! Totally understood this was circulated. I think what's odd to me is that the depression isnt in the field at all.

      And the extra metal on the obverse...

      Anyway, hope these help!

      https://photos.app.goo.gl/LtuXpDWufmkLLNZr9

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      • #4
        The impression is also on the rim to the northwest. With this being a circulated coin and the many years and miles it has traveled, I agree with OCC, it is more than likely PMD.

        One other thing to remember is the working dies are round piece of steel without a rim. The devices are sunk into the working die, so they are raised on the coin.

        For a strike through theory this means it was in the deepest part of the working die and on the rim without ever touching the flat field. That to me is not logical.

        It makes sense to me anyway that if whatever this PMD was, it sunk a good amount on the rim and through the eagle. But was not deep enough to get onto the flat field.

        Happy hunting.
        Last edited by MintErrors; 07-15-2024, 06:50 PM.
        Gary Kozera
        Website: https://MintErrors.org

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        • #5
          Thank you both for your insights. Really appreciate it.

          Any theories on what the raised metal shaving might be on the obverse? It's very small and does not appear to be a scratch from what I can see... seems like an oddity

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          • #6
            MintErrors makes a fantastic point about thiking about the die being the reverse of the coin and has solved many a various mystery for me. postives/negatives of the designs and die making/minting processes.

            i looked at the album but the images weren't really any better tbh but i did see the circles and nothing from those images leads me to think strike through. it all looks like normal pmd contact to my eyes when focusing on the circled areas.

            just a heads-up, if you chase bust coinage, you gonna see some STRANGE things. (strange means odd and neat) - that coinage was minted quite diff than today from my understanding.
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