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  • 1930-D Lincoln Cent

    I'm not saying I think this is a Mint error. It was determined years ago in another forum it's strike doubling. Still I think it's darn funny-looking for it. Please give it a going-over, tell me what you think. Grazie Mille.

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    coin for sure has some strong MD but idk about the bow tie. there is re-engraving known on this era of coinage and lincolns i think are somewhat known for some doubling or something at the bow tie, not that i'm saying it is the case here. just something to keep in mind and/or research.

    nice images and presentation. TY so much for just uploading the images not making me have to click a bunch of attachments. you're A-OK im my book.
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    • #3
      Appreciate it. You know what the experts say about strike doubling, “flat & shelf-like,” that whole thing. Look at this date, it’s mangled. The nose, lips, tie, that’s not “doubling, but a jolt to those areas. This coin took a violent jolt when it was struck, that’s the only way I think I can describe it, still. The date and the mark have some “slide” indicative of MD but the rest is hardly textbook strike doubling. I like it. I think it’s a random act. That’s to say, not repetitive, this didn’t come off the die. I still have a problem visualizing, though, how it happened. Still can’t get this little walnut around that.

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      • #4
        its mostly not easy to understand/visualize because there are different events that cause the various MD.

        MUCH to my amazement, the dies and arm that holds the die have some serious give to them, allowing for a LOT of tilt, since this tilt is more like a pendulum, not just horizontal movement, it is gonna create some odd MD and legit errors.

        ejecting coins at high speed while a die is slamming up and down with a collar etc etc (it is crazy to watch in videos) it is a wonder there aren't MORE events tbh.

        die bounce = seems simple enough to understand cuz every action there is a .... (but because the die can "pivot" from side to side a bit, it can probably create a look of ejection doubling which has that metal "pushed" way too far look, like above. esp the MM.

        ejection doubling = a coin is being ejected a bit too "fast" that the die hasn't gotten fully out of the way (we're talking about fractions of a mm) and the coin is "pushed" against the inside of the recess of the die that just struck it and the metal gets "slid" or "pushed" creating a much diff effect than just shelf-like but the shelf-like does cover the vast majority. fwiw

        there are probably a couple/few other "types" of MD but i'm not up for chasing the rabbit this evenin'.

        now the why of it all of how it only effects specific areas is the same as double dies not seeming to effect all the devices based on what happened at inception. rotation, tilt, horitonzal movement etc.
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        • #5
          It’s a good-looking coin far as those go and I’m good with, however it happened, it happened at the striking stage. It’s a unique one, I think can give it that. I call it a “jolt.” Not what we’re accustomed to seeing in a shaky planchet, typically.

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