Mint error worth putting on eBay?

[Rich Menchio]

I have only had a reply from you and the other gentleman that asked about the weight but haven’t heard back from him since I mentioned the weight.
It’s ok I will put up a different coin and see if anyone else besides yourself replies. Hopefully they will but at least I can count on you and I thank you very much for that.

[occnumis2021]

great posts MintErrors. you said literally the same things i had come to mind. it was kinda spooky yet oddly reassuring.

fwiw Rich, sometimes people do these kinds of things w/o ill intent although this one looks suspicious.

[Rich Menchio]

I still can’t figure out how someone could do that to one side of a coin without doing something noticeable to the other side if it’s not in the original die. Is there really no possible way this could have been done in the minting process?

Thank you
Rich

[MintErrors]

The mint process is pretty simple if you understand the steps. This coin was fully struck normally. You can tell this by a solid obverse. If you look at the reverse, it looks like it was fully struck as well. Then some where in its life, something happened. The only minute possibility would be an extreme lamination or split after strike. But, the weight is incorrect and the reverse look is highly suspicious in my opinion.

I dont know what the conditions were set to make is coin look the way it is, but once the legitimate coins were struck, they headed down a chute to bagging and eventually out to circulation.

I personally have had my fair share of weird and unknown US coins. If this is something that you must have an answer to, you can either post this under CONECA SERVICES under Examinations.

If you want an expert to look at it, you could send it in to ANACS, NGC, PCGS or CAC, the third party grading services. Be prepared to shell out close to 70 usd to have them slab, authenticate and examine it. It could come back unslabbed and with a note why. It can become an expensive gamble.

In any event, what ever you do with this one, is up to you. I do not have any more to add to this post about this coin.

[onecent1909]

Sorry I did not get back on here. spent a bit of time on the attributing of varieties and errors.

Yes I wanted to know the weight of the Damaged/error coin of the original post. the one with the reverse in question.
What is the weight of the first coin?

[Rich Menchio]

It is 3.0-3.1

[onecent1909]

I still can’t figure out how someone could do that to one side of a coin without doing something noticeable to the other side if it’s not in the original die.

What I can tell you. There are only a small number of steps from melting the metal to making a planchet, making a die to striking a coin and storing plus the moving of the new coinage.
That knowledge is what me and minterrors uses to know this was not done at the mint.

What happens out side of the mint.... from coins used to make magic coins/trick coins/jewelry/miniature furniture(chairs, tea cups, harts, love tokens) /to tools (washers, screwdrivers, book holder, conductors for electrical/welding) to just people wanting to see what happens if I do .... I can ....
and by the way... I have seen each of those including the furniture that was all done with cents in an exhibit at a Winter FUN coin show.

So I have talked to multiple Mint workers on the operation at the mint, and I co-teach with a CONECA board member on a week long class on errors and varieties for the ANA in the summer.
There is no way that in the Die/Strike/Planchet/Mint operation that would do that to a coin, and I have been a variety/error collector, specialist since 1985.

In the class we go over each process and what can happen in those process that will make an error.

for your coin to have happened at the mint......
The die would have to have extra metal put On it to fill in any design . On a coin what is raised (the design and lettering) is sunk into a die. There fore if it is not on the coin, that area must be filled in on the die.

it weighs what the coin should weigh minus a small bit. I was expecting a little more... but not much more.
Planchet would not make that happen. strike would not either.

mint operation like storing, moving, cleaning, heating, and other things would not effect the coin in this way.

at the mint I know what can happen, outside.... no idea.
Sorry this is damaged...

[Rich Menchio]

I just wish someone could explain how it happened. I still can’t figure out how they could do that to one side without causing any damage to the other unless it was in the die cast. I’m not saying it can’t be done I’m just trying to figure out how it could be done. Thank you for the wealth of knowledge greatly appreciated.