1982 Error Question

[junglistOn1]

Hello all, Is this a lamintation error or is this extra metal. Thanks for the help.

[junglistOn1]

Is this also a DDO and DDR. Or is this just die detoriation doubling. I meant to post on Varieties. Thanks for the help.

[wavysteps]

This is one that deserves an in hand inspection. It does look like a doubled die obverse and the reverse seems to have a retained die break, however, the pictures are not conclusive to make a call on either anomaly.

BJ Neff

[junglistOn1]

Thank you BJ for the input, who should I send it to.

[junglistOn1]

Got my coins back and this one was DDD and has a Large Die Break. Thank you Dr. Wiles

[diamond]

James isn't quite accurate with the die break business. No metal was lost from the die. Instead, some metal sank in. I suppose you could call it a small retained interior die break. The term "Large Die Break" is a useless term from Alan Herbert. His "Large Die Break" is anything but large. Everyone else would call a Herbert-style "Large Die Break" a die chip.

[fugnchill]

I use Alan Herberts "A Price Guide to Die Errors" as my reference for die anomalies. So I should disregard his analasys between small/large die breaks (basically size difference in millimeters). I realize that professionals make mistakes and/or after further study opinions change but what you said is the general census?

Just making a mental note for future personal attributions.

Thanks,
Lestrrr

[diamond]

I would advise you to disregard his terminology regarding die breaks. His main offense is to attach adjectives denoting size and to his terms. One should NEVER attach adjectives concerning size to any term, especially when the adjective has no relationship to the actual size of the defect. For example, his preferred term for cud is "major die break". Many "major die breaks" are quite trivial in size.

Another of his problems is assigning a precise definition to a common term that has a much broader usage. For example, the term "die break" is inherently non-specific and simply refers to a void in the die created by a piece of the die breaking away. Herbert's use of the term "die break" is directed at small, interior voids.

[fugnchill]

Thank you Mike,

I agree, his definitions are very precise even though the subject matter is much broader. I think it may be human nature to believe written word more so than (even though it's written) what is said on the internet even though their both the same.

Thanks again,
Lestrrr