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    A possible new doubled die DDR 1970p cent

    I just found a new possible doubled die variety 1970 P cent in a roll about two months ago DDR.

    There is an extra bar line above the building and also around the left side of the building .The doubling is round and clear it is not a die gouge or MD or die deterioration doubling to me anyway i would like some opinions on this please
    Thank you Brad
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    This is a common spot for die damage, die deterioration, and machine doubling to take their effects. It's damage. Didn't you send this in already?
    Most fools think they are only ignorant.
    -- Benjamin Franklin

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rockdude View Post
      This is a common spot for die damage, die deterioration, and machine doubling to take their effects. It's damage. Didn't you send this in already?
      What i don't understand what you are talking about sent it were. I want Mike to look at it he's the expert.
      Why did you ask me Rockdude if i sent this in were would i send it to who ZEUS? Rockdude it's not damage i know the differance between damage and doubling.

      Brad
      Last edited by coinartist; 11-05-2009, 01:16 PM.

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        When you reported this in Aug. '09 on another forum you were going to send it in "I will be sending these in to confirm my discovery to Ken Potor or John wexler" These are your words and that's what I was referring to.
        Only a fool would think of sending it to Zeus.

        It is likely a die gouge that is causing the lines on the coin. Joe
        Last edited by rockdude; 11-05-2009, 01:25 PM. Reason: add content
        Most fools think they are only ignorant.
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        • #5
          It does look like an interesting defect. It would be an unusual form for a doubled die to take, though. I think you would be better off sending the coin to James Wiles or BJ Neff, since they are more skilled in handling subtle die varieties.
          Mike Diamond. Error coin writer and researcher.

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            Originally posted by diamond View Post
            It does look like an interesting defect. It would be an unusual form for a doubled die to take, though. I think you would be better off sending the coin to James Wiles or BJ Neff, since they are more skilled in handling subtle die varieties.
            Thank you Mike for your input and your suggestion were to send it.Thank you again Mike
            Brad

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rockdude View Post
              When you reported this in Aug. '09 on another forum you were going to send it in "I will be sending these in to confirm my discovery to Ken Potor or John wexler" These are your words and that's what I was referring to.
              Only a fool would think of sending it to Zeus.

              It is likely a die gouge that is causing the lines on the coin. Joe
              Die gouges dont curve around the building as i indicated with the arrows look at the pic again do you see the third line and also hugging the left side of the building and the images are are round and raised.

              Look at the red arrows and see what i mean and my name is Brad ,Tom.
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              • #8
                Alright, if you would post the results when you get them back from whom ever you send it to that would be great. Joe
                Most fools think they are only ignorant.
                -- Benjamin Franklin

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rockdude View Post
                  Alright, if you would post the results when you get them back from whom ever you send it to that would be great. Joe
                  Why are you calling me Joe you must have me mixed up with some other person.
                  Please call me Brad What if i called you dockcrude would you like it?.
                  Brad

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                  • #10
                    OK BRAD, does that make you feel better? Joe
                    Most fools think they are only ignorant.
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                    • #11
                      I see what you are confused about. I sign at the end of my posts,Joe. You think I am calling you Joe. Wow you had me worried for a minute, I thought you just wanted to start an argument.
                      Most fools think they are only ignorant.
                      -- Benjamin Franklin

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                      • #12
                        There is no need to send this anywhere. It is a common occurance from the late 60s and early 70s. I call it abrasion doubling, others call it die deterioration doubling. Not matter what its called it is false doubling and not a doubled die.
                        Thanks,
                        James Wiles
                        CONECA 20th Century Die Variety Attributer

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JamesWiles View Post
                          There is no need to send this anywhere. It is a common occurance from the late 60s and early 70s. I call it abrasion doubling, others call it die deterioration doubling. Not matter what its called it is false doubling and not a doubled die.
                          Thanks,
                          James Wiles
                          Thank you James i have already sent in in and waiting for the outcome. Thank you again.
                          Brad

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rockdude View Post
                            I see what you are confused about. I sign at the end of my posts,Joe. You think I am calling you Joe. Wow you had me worried for a minute, I thought you just wanted to start an argument.
                            I'm very Sorry Joe I didn't realize you were calling yourself that I thought you were calling me that Sorry again Joe Rockdue.
                            Brad

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                              No problem Bra.
                              Most fools think they are only ignorant.
                              -- Benjamin Franklin

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