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fcloud & wavysteps 1943S Doubling?

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  • aztrvlr
    • Dec 2009
    • 45
    #1

    fcloud & wavysteps 1943S Doubling?

    I appreciated your opinions on the other thread! So if you get a chance take a look at this 1943S?

    Would the 4 be considered a shelf doubled (like this descriptive term) or???

    Also the secondary S is not full height but the serif would be considered split?

    Again the S seems like it may have been flattened or???

    Thanks for your opinions!
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  • wavysteps
    • Aug 2007
    • 1925
    #2
    The steel cents were notorious for die deterioration doubling and this is a good example of that phenomena. Die deterioration can be slightly distorted in its replication since it is dependent on cold metal flow. Machine doubling however, tends to have less distortion since it is bounced against a design element, creating the appearance of more uniform doubling (which it is not).

    BJ Neff
    Member of: ANA, CCC, CONECA, Fly-in-club, FUN, NLG & T.E.V.E.C.

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    • aztrvlr
      • Dec 2009
      • 45
      #3
      Thanks wavysteps!

      So the second S as well as the 4 is caused from die deterioration. I always thought that die deterioration occurred around the element not off to a side.

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      • diamond
        • Jul 2007
        • 2040
        #4
        Die deterioration doubling can surround a letter/number or just affect one side. It's highly variable.
        Mike Diamond. Error coin writer and researcher.

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        • fcloud
          • Jan 2009
          • 72
          #5
          I concur with BJ and Mike.

          Die deterioration can be quite deceptive.

          There are cases where a double die can actually resemble die deteriouration. Heck this one even looks like shelf doubling.

          Here is my 1941 DDO (top pop and attributed by PCGS).

          CONECA Member# N-4679
          President of the Racine Numismatic Society
          www.arsave.com/variety_resource_dimes

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          • aztrvlr
            • Dec 2009
            • 45
            #6
            Thanks Guys,

            This also had me wondering because I had been comparing the Cherry Pickers Guide on a 1943 D, which he refers to as a repunched Mintmark??????

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