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  • 1941 Penny with wheat imprint under Lincolns head

    I found this penny that looks to be a possible error. I was told to get an expert opinion 1st amd take it from there. Your help is greatly appreciated.
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  • #2
    just a vise job imo. pmd.
    coinfacts.com - conecaonline.info - board.conecaonline.org/forum/numismatic-site-links - briansvarietycoins.com - coppercoins.com - cuds-on-coins.com - doubleddie.com - error-ref.com - franklinlover.yolasite.com - ikegroup.info -lincolncentresource.com - maddieclashes.com - money.org - ngccoin.com/price-guide/world - ngccoin.com/census - ngccoin.com/resources/counterfeit-detection - nnp.wustl.edu - pcgs.com/pop - pcgs.com/coinfacts - pcgs.com/photograde - varietyvista.com - vamworld.com

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    • #3
      That was my 1st, quick glance thought. Then I noticed the wheat like feather on his head and some of the letters. I was going back and forth in my thinking. I wanted it to be something. I appreciate it.

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      • #4
        ya. it was more than one coin being squeezed. i presume not all of these are intended to scam someone though. a lot of people out there just tinker. in my grandfather's jewelry shop as a kid, i used to melt cents from change with the small jeweler's torches. put em on railroad tracks etc. coins do take a beating.

        on the other hand, there are 8 billion or so people out there. that is a LOT of time, curiosity and more.
        coinfacts.com - conecaonline.info - board.conecaonline.org/forum/numismatic-site-links - briansvarietycoins.com - coppercoins.com - cuds-on-coins.com - doubleddie.com - error-ref.com - franklinlover.yolasite.com - ikegroup.info -lincolncentresource.com - maddieclashes.com - money.org - ngccoin.com/price-guide/world - ngccoin.com/census - ngccoin.com/resources/counterfeit-detection - nnp.wustl.edu - pcgs.com/pop - pcgs.com/coinfacts - pcgs.com/photograde - varietyvista.com - vamworld.com

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hashilil78 View Post
          That was my 1st, quick glance thought. Then I noticed the wheat like feather on his head and some of the letters. I was going back and forth in my thinking. I wanted it to be something. I appreciate it.


          In my opinion, The letters on his head are backwards. This is not the correct orientation. This was a vise job or several coins stacked under heavy pressure.

          When working dies are created, the images are sunk into the die. This allows the coin to be struck and the devices or featured of the coin to be raised on the coin. The letters IF they were on Lincolns head on the die, it would have been at one of the deepest parts of the design. That means something terrible would happen, like the dies cracking due to that much force. If the dies did not crumble, it would have resulted in a heck of a die clash....

          It cannot be a flipped over double strike in/out of collar, again, since the images are backwards on the face of Lincoln, it was part of a coin stack that had a lot of pressure on it.

          Most potential error coins have a lot of possibilities, but if they have been circulated it becomes increasing more difficult to assess the coin with multiple issues, to determine if it is a legit error or something manfactured out side the mint (post mint damage - PMD).
          Gary Kozera
          Website: https://MintErrors.org

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          • #6
            Agree with above assessment looks like the Vise Squad got a hold of this coin.
            Vise_Coin.jpg

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            • #7
              It's always great to learn. Lots of cons out there. Love the knowledge on this site when I come across something new. Did you know the United States of America does not mint penny's for Constitutional currency in the Republic? They mint cents. Penny comes from pennyweight. Cents comes from digital weight.
              Pennyweight = 1.55517384 Grams . Cent = 1/100 0f a dollar. Cents from 1909 to 1982 weight was around 3.1 Grams while the new cents after 1982 are about 2.5 grams. Yet all are 1/100 th of a dollar.

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