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Jovita Idar Womens Quarter 2023P

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    Jovita Idar Womens Quarter 2023P

    Good morning,
    I purchased 100 coins from the mint for this series and I found a few with this error but am not certain what type of error it is. At first glance it looked like a piece of string but upon closer look it is not..possibly a grind marm? Not sure what it is but I only have a few in my batch. It is on the obverse side at the bottom of Wasington's bust. Your help is most appreciated!
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    Hi there, this looks to be hubbed in debris. There is a small write-up about it on ERROR-REF.COM
    https://www.error-ref.com/hubbed-in-debris/
    "On the coin, the defect will appear as a raised imperfection that continues from the field to the design with no loss of clarity or relief."
    There is a picture of a Lincoln cent you can reference. I will try to add a clickable link below. I am fairly new to this forum and not CONECA
    Hubbed In Debris
    https://www.error-ref.com

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      Thank you! I have a couple of others as well but they do not have or contain a stress crack in them. Is it possible the hubbed in debris caused it as it wore on? Woud this be something worth submitting for a grade?
      Last edited by rlh7499; 09-17-2023, 09:15 AM.

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        No problem you're welcome. I see that there is a crack or two. It looks like one by the designers initials from the rim to the bust. The debris may have weakened the die. I can't tell if the cracks connect. I didn't notice the crack until seeing the name of the file. That's a good idea. Submitting for a grade only if you think it would grade high is only my opinion as it is costly which includes shipping and insurance and return S & I and labeled as a mint error would be another charge. ANACS sometimes has specials and I sent one in to them and paid extra for the research. It came back as a split die with bi level die cracks.
        Hope this helps.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by rlh7499 View Post
          Thank you! I have a couple of others as well but they do not have or contain a stress crack in them. Is it possible the hubbed in debris caused it as it wore on? Woud this be something worth submitting for a grade?
          In my opinion, it depends on why youd like to get it graded and slabbed. Anacs is probably the cheapest, but, the price can push upwards. It really depends on how many coins you want to send in. At some local coin shows, ANACS has reps that will assist in filling out the paperwork. If you submit it at the show, the rep should ship it to ANACS in Colorado for free. It saves a few dollars. If you are an A ACS Insider, they may send out emails to those who are signed up, and get first dibs at using the promo code, before the general public sees the promotion.

          For example, if you were to send in one coin, the price for getting it to ANACS might cost $5.00 postage. Then add in somewhere close to, if not slightly over $20.00 for grading and slabbing. There might be a verification fee, but it is minimal, and are usua,lying reduced for Insiders. I know they charged a verification fee for varieties, but I never got charged for errors I sent in. Ask a rep or customer service about that. Return postage is insured and usually sent UPS. It is not uncommon for return postage for 1 to 4 coins to be in the neighborhood of $25.00 . These prices may have changed since I sent in coins, but it gives you an idea, that submitting a single coin may cost close to $50.00 or more. Again, ANACS may be the cheaper way out compared to PCGS or NGC. If you call one of the third party grading services to get general Info, ask them for a final total cost, to include any shipping costs and insurance.

          All I wish to add here is its your choice on whether to send them in. Will it be a significant cost, and do you have any return on investment? If your doing it for a peace of mind,or simply due to it being a special event, then it's not money related and I think falls into a special category for each person who doesn't do it for investment.

          Good luck on your decision.
          Last edited by MintErrors; 09-19-2023, 06:02 AM.
          Gary Kozera
          Website: https://MintErrors.org

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          • #6
            Good morning
            Those are great questions to ask one's self. I've noticed though that some coins/error coins bring in more if they've been graded or found to be matter of fact - maybe because of scammers?
            I know there are a couple fo coin shows next month but there is also a big one in October in Tampa, FL. Maybe I will take them with me when I go.
            Why isn't ANACS as recognized like the others (PCGS, NGC), is it because they've not been arround as long?
            Thanks Gary, you are a great help

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            • #7
              Thanks "One Cent",
              Yes the crack is all one, although there are scratches on top of it. I have several others but they are only debris in the hub - no scratches.
              I did find one though that looked like it could possiby be the onset of the crack...just not an expert enough to get there, that's why I trust and rely on the valuable inputs from all of you
              I appreciate your thoughts and responses! Thank you

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