New Member Intro and Possible Newly Discovered Coin Error?

[ShaeGero]

Hello, my name is Shae, and I have always had an interest in numismatics, coin errors, collecting etc. but just started. Before my great grandfather passed away, he gifted me two complete sets of the Official Whitman statehood quarters book. Upon inspection I believe I may be in possession of a 2001 Philidelphia mint Rhode Island state quarter with some sort of error however I cannot find any known errors reported at all let alone similar to the coin I have. I would love to get some more information on the coin from some more experienced collectors if possible. I cannot wait to hear possible feedback and of course a HUGE THANKS IN ADVANCE, as well as my utmost appreciation!

[MintErrors]

Welcome aboard.

In my opinion, this is not a new discovery. It appears to be damage which occurred outside the US Mint, it has the appearance of something that damaged the coin as the coin or object traveled in a circle.

If the circle shows on one side it could have been a coin wrapping machine or a coin counter machine. If it is on both sides, it could be a coin counter machine.

The damage is pretty evident on 1790 date and through the sail of the ship, with photos provided.

[ShaeGero]

Gary if my grandfather got these uncirculated or from the mint for example would that still suggest something outside of a manufacturing error? I apologize if I come across insulting at all as that is not my intention. I am really rather new and ignorant to this so I am trying to soak up any and all information I can. I truly appreciate your feedback by the way!

[MintErrors]

ShaeGero

No apology needed, it's perfectly OK to express your opinions here.

IF is a big word. The issue here is this condition can happen within the US Mint as well. The coin counters are used to track how many coins are put into bags or other containers. It occurs more frequently outside the US Mint because the mint contracts businesses to roll and bag the majority of US coins to the public. I am sure the US Mint can roll or bag their own, I am just not privy to how much they do this.

That circle is dug into the coin. If that line was raised it may have been a different story. The US Mint provides short videos on how they manufacture the dies that create the coins. If I am able to find the link, I will forward it here.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=...PdKPdhLnleO1ER

The working dies that make coins are pieces of steel rods that have the images sunk into the steel. Then, when theworking dies squeeze the blank into a coin, the design features can be raised onto the coin. Anything flat on the working die will remain flat on the coin. The quarters can have areas where lettering and the date are punched into the coin, which is by design.

If that circle was raised, it would have meant the line was sunk into the working die, so it would have been raised on the coin. I still feel confident that regardless if done within the mint or outside, it's some form of damage that is typically not collectible by the majority of collectors.

The quarter series does however have some doubled die varieties that can be found. It's important to read the description line in order to know where the doubling was documented.

Two websites cater to most modern US coins:

Https://conecaonline.info

Http://varietyvista.com

Any questions? Feel free to ask. I am a regular member just like you. Others will probably chime in as well. Under my profile, I have 2 subscriptions to posts that guide new members on how to use this forum. I did them to help everyone out.
Happy hunting.

[ShaeGero]

Thank you for pointing out the differences in these flaws as it is interesting especially because it does seem as if the mark is raised especially at the top of the coin as well as through the numbers 17 and 9 but then if you look at the 0 it seems to fade almost completely and pick back up shortly passed that but more as an indentation or impression? It piques my curiosity even more. Do you have any tips at getting good pictures where shadows do not create a misrepresentation by chance?

[MintErrors]

ShaeGero

In my opinion, lighting is the #1pain to master.

I do have a post that helps with taking photos.

https://board.conecaonline.org/forum...th-a-cellphone

Lighting can be subdued by having some sheer cloth between the light the camera. Just be careful not to have the cloth on the light for too long. You do not want to create a fire hazard. It also depends on how far the light is away and how the camera adapts to the light. People get creative and use all sorts of things.

Some times a little less lighting can be more beneficial. Most of the seasoned collectors have the tools to adjust lighting to a desired level after they download a photograph here and modify it and repost it.

And if you are wondering where you should post new coins, I have e a post for that as well. Good things to note are; create your own post. one coin per post. You can reply to yourcown post and add more photos. A lot more info in thre post.

https://board.conecaonline.org/forum...t-forum-to-use

Happy hunting