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    New Member Intro with a Question

    Hi all,

    New member to the forum, not yet a member of CONECA

    One of the pennies I have is a 1945 P penny in what I estimate to be VF35 condition based on the PCGS photo grade guide. The first thing I noticed was a line on the wheat grain side of the penny. It ran down the left side just left of the "O" in the word "ONE" and across the "C" in "CENTS". It continues almost to the "U" in "UNITED" and it goes up to the left of the "U" in "PLURIBUS".

    That was my initial observation, and then I took a closer look with a loupe. Additional evidence leads me to believe there was a crack in the die. To the left of this line there is wear and contact marks and there is no contact marks just to the right of this line. The "U" in PLURIBLUS" is very clear but the "E", and "PL" are significantly worn away. That could only be done if they were on a higher plane.

    Any thoughts?
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    Last edited by AZNativE-7; 09-09-2021, 02:56 PM.
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  • #2
    The same thing seems to be happening over here.
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    • #3
      You may be right. I didn't notice that. After reading several post, I think it could be from grease on the die. Maybe?

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      • #4
        It almost looks like a clash but I don't know what it would match up with on the Obv. of the coin.

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          I will try to take some better pictures and post them in the morning. I will also get both sides. I took some more pictures from different angles. I hope I captured all the details.
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          • #6
            I don't think it's a clash.

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            • #7
              This is the image I was looking for but don't see.

              Progressive Indirect Design Transfer: A form of die deterioration that manifests itself in the form of a “ghostly” image of a design element on the opposite side of a coin. The force of a die strike travels through the planchet and into the opposite die. After hundreds of thousands of strikes, the outline of the designs begin to transfer to the opposing die and show on the coins that are struck. In the case of Lincoln cents, it is common to see a ghostly outline of Lincoln’s bust on the reverse of wheat cents that are struck in later die states. It is especially visible on uncirculated coinage.
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              • #8
                do you think it would help see more clearly if you took it out the holder?

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                • #9
                  It is out of the holder.

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