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  • Baxter4545
    • Sep 2023
    • 24

    1969-S Die error

    Could someone please help me as to the identity of these two types of die error. Completely new at this so trying to understand all the different types of errors.
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  • eaxtellcoin
    RPM Dealer Specialist
    • Feb 2008
    • 798

    #2
    Hello Baxter4545. These both are MD Machine damage doubling. Notice they are flat/shelf like on the primary date/mintmark.
    Very common on 1968-1973 Lincoln cents.
    BTW very nice in focus photo's.
    Eric

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    • Baxter4545
      • Sep 2023
      • 24

      #3
      Thanks.Was a still photgraphic specialist in the air force, so had some training. Couple more when someone has time. Thanks
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      • MintErrors
        Minterrors.org
        • Jun 2015
        • 3554

        #4
        Typically the forum staff would like one coin per post, to cut down on confusion, as to which coin is being talked about.,it also helps the forum search when a single coin can be added to the post title and in the post itself.

        The obverse of the 1960D appears to be an RPM(re-punched mint mark). In my opinion, it kinda looks like rpm-001. I will confess, I only went through the first 60 for that tear, and I did so rather quickly. It may be a different numbered rpm...

        http://varietyvista.com/02b%20LC%20R...960DRPM001.htm

        The placement of the rpm is everything, it help solidify the rpm attribution. Those mintmarks were hammered into the working dies prior to 1990. The 1990s showed mint improvements, to include adding the mint mark on the master hub, essentially eliminating the rpm all together in the USA.
        Gary Kozera
        Website: https://MintErrors.org

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        • eaxtellcoin
          RPM Dealer Specialist
          • Feb 2008
          • 798

          #5
          Hello again,
          The RPM is RPM#003, you can look where Gary pointed you to. Variety Vista and look for the proper die state that goes with the coins die marker's. The REV photo is MD. Not a Double die. Machine Damage doubling is very common.
          Thanks again for the great photo's
          Eric

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          • MintErrors
            Minterrors.org
            • Jun 2015
            • 3554

            #6
            Originally posted by Baxter4545 View Post
            Could someone please help me as to the identity of these two types of die error. Completely new at this so trying to understand all the different types of errors.

            Technically, the doubled dies, re-punched mint marks, re-punched dates, over mint marks and over dates are considered varieties. Almost eveything else is an error. You can find a huge list of error types at https://error-ref.com under the completed entries area.
            https://www.error-ref.com/index-of-entries/


            Eric is correct about the coin being 003. I did not go through all of the different stages. The Denver years 1959D, 1960D and 1961D had quite a few RPM's during those years.
            Last edited by MintErrors; 01-28-2024, 10:22 PM.
            Gary Kozera
            Website: https://MintErrors.org

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            • Baxter4545
              • Sep 2023
              • 24

              #7
              ok thanks for the info. Will limit one coin per topic in the future. Thanks

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              • Baxter4545
                • Sep 2023
                • 24

                #8
                Ok thanks I thought it might be fs-101.That's what I was leaning towards. The reverse image is of a 1966. I've been on variety vista and pcgs and the 1966 ddr pics seem to look just like this,so I'm really confused now. Back to study again.

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                • eaxtellcoin
                  RPM Dealer Specialist
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 798

                  #9
                  ​ Morning Baxter4545,
                  I've uploaded amd edited Dr.Wiles REV photo of a good way of seeing this DDR. Remember that BOTH devices must be raised in comparison to the field. If they are flat/shelf like then it's MD. Notice both parts of letters are raised to the field and you see serifs with the lettering? Look at the arrows I added to Dr.Wiles's photo's.
                  I hope this helps,
                  Eric

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                  Last edited by eaxtellcoin; 02-04-2024, 09:08 AM.

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                  • eaxtellcoin
                    RPM Dealer Specialist
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 798

                    #10
                    1966PDDR001b-E-of-CENT-2---VV.jpg

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                    • Baxter4545
                      • Sep 2023
                      • 24

                      #11
                      Thank you! That is a much clearer pic.I think some of the issues are pics that are not very clear. That one makes it much clearer to see what it actually looks like. Been doing a lot of relooking at things and think i can see the difference now. .Thanks again

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