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1982-P 1c DDO and DDR Small Date / Zn 2 5 wt Variety

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  • Novicetoerr
    • Apr 2008
    • 595
    #1

    1982-P 1c DDO and DDR Small Date / Zn 2 5 wt Variety

    Good morning All! Us back again.

    Been heeding BJ's advice to not look too hard and target the obvious ones.
    The "rookiest" of 3 NVTEs (<month digging experience), declared finding two
    1982 Small Date Zn variety coins (one Phila and one Denver) by confirming the obvious 2.5gm weights vs the 3gm weight of the old Cu coins. But accidentally dropped or lost the Denver coin due to excitement! We're looking all around the area and hopefully find it!

    Attached are photos of the 1982-P only. Hope for your comments on the doublings identified.
    Thanks!
    NVTEs
    P.S. Since not trying to really, really look hard, the ovbious error coins as if beginn sprouting out (hopefully real ones).
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  • 3¢nicker
    • Oct 2007
    • 128
    #2
    i'm not so sure on this one to me the only thing that looked like it could be split was the A in states lower left side but it wasn't focused on that so i can't say i see anything else
    Jimmy Ehrhart
    previous member of CONECA and C.F.C.C.

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    • Novicetoerr
      • Apr 2008
      • 595
      #3
      Originally posted by 3¢nicker View Post
      i'm not so sure on this one to me the only thing that looked like it could be split was the A in states lower left side but it wasn't focused on that so i can't say i see anything else
      Hello, Do you mean you don't see any other doublings at all except that A?
      Thank you...NVTES

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      • 3¢nicker
        • Oct 2007
        • 128
        #4
        i'm saying i don't see anything from your pictures but the possibility of some doubling on that A so try and get a close up focused pic on it and i could tell you more but i just don't see anything yet
        Jimmy Ehrhart
        previous member of CONECA and C.F.C.C.

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        • Novicetoerr
          • Apr 2008
          • 595
          #5
          Originally posted by 3¢nicker View Post
          i'm saying i don't see anything from your pictures but the possibility of some doubling on that A so try and get a close up focused pic on it and i could tell you more but i just don't see anything yet
          Thank you. Will retake.asap Also located the Denver coin among piles of coins. Will try to take clearer pictures if we can.
          NVTEs

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          • Novicetoerr
            • Apr 2008
            • 595
            #6
            Hello again,

            Here are additional close-up photos as requested by 3cnicker. Camera is not so good. Have to adjust colors and exposure to optimize close-ups.

            NVTEs.
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            • mustbebob
              Moderator
              • Aug 2007
              • 3050
              #7
              The last pic of the UN of UNITED does show notching that would be associated with a doubled die. Is this a pic of the same coin?
              Bob Piazza
              Lincoln Cent Attributer

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              • Novicetoerr
                • Apr 2008
                • 595
                #8
                Hello,

                Yes, same coin though different shots. Is "notching" the term for those
                "separating lines"? All the letters of Obverse and Reverse have those
                "lines". Have the same Small Date/Zn but Denver coin with same characteristics.

                Thankyou,NVTEs

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                • 3¢nicker
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 128
                  #9
                  well the updated pic of the A didn't tell me anything but that last picture does show what you are looking for. what i would suggest is to either send it in for attribution or to look on coppercoins.com and try to match die markers to the coins they will have on there.
                  Jimmy Ehrhart
                  previous member of CONECA and C.F.C.C.

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                  • 3¢nicker
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 128
                    #10
                    and notching is the term for those separating lines yes. the lettering should be sharp edged and the notching comes when the die is doubled and the first hubbing is slightly misaligned from the second hubbing over lapping the design elements. where there should be one sharp corner there shows two hense the notching.
                    Jimmy Ehrhart
                    previous member of CONECA and C.F.C.C.

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                    • Novicetoerr
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 595
                      #11
                      NVTEs back together again tonight for more digging!!!

                      First of, really appreciate the effort by 3cnicker. Received the several very nice coins in the mail. Great coins that we can use as reference. Having actual example coins in hand really is a big difference vs pictures and descriptions.


                      Thank you both Bob, 3cnicker, for the comments. Just would like to clarify
                      that the we were able to photograph the "notchings" by angling the camera and at very close-up positions only.

                      Who could we send the coins for attribution? Plan to send other coins. too!
                      Could we send coins that we suspect to be errors but may end up not?

                      Plan at least to send the small dates and large dates Zn varieties.

                      Thank you all again,
                      NVTEs

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                      • 3¢nicker
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 128
                        #12
                        no problem!
                        there are attribution services on the coneca homepage with the option to include grading by icg. anacs allows you to send it in without being part of a membership either but i have my own personal gripe with them. pcgs and ngc require that you join some mebership thing before sending in anything or going to a dealer who already has that membership. there are +'s and -'s to all of them i guess but i'd say get good feedback about one of your coins first before sending it in, because you can end up wasting a lot of money if you send in a lot, that turn out not to be so ( there are no refunds for the service if the coin turns out not to be anything). and i wouldn't really grade them unles the error or variety just looks great or if it is a hard to find one. just some food for thought
                        Jimmy Ehrhart
                        previous member of CONECA and C.F.C.C.

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                        • Novicetoerr
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 595
                          #13
                          Thank you again.

                          Have seen the CONECA attribution process and will take that route.
                          Will prep coins.

                          Regards,
                          NVTEs

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