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Found 1959-D Lincoln Cent with RPD (or OverDate) and others???

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  • Novicetoerr
    • Apr 2008
    • 595

    Found 1959-D Lincoln Cent with RPD (or OverDate) and others???

    Good morning to ALL!

    NVTEs unearthed late last night a very interesting 1959-D cent in very good condition. But luck ran just this morning. Can't take its pictures due to software glitch due to overloading of memory photos. One NVTE is fixing.

    Following are (note, novices' ) observations, that can be inaccurate:
    1. Very interesting RPD or OD??? Been scouring webites but can't find any similar discovery or listing. Saw different denom/coin samples, but only from
    write-ups and not actual listed finds.
    2. RPM and/or 2 OMMs???
    3. DDO of letters and digits; and doubled earlobe???
    4. DDR of letters, Lincoln's statue, bays/columns???
    5. Some trails on top and bottom of LIBERTY; and some on top of EPU???
    5. Steps anomalies and column fluting lines???


    Will post as soon as camera works.
    Regards,
    NVTE's
  • Novicetoerr
    • Apr 2008
    • 595

    #2
    1959-D Photos attached

    Hello and good morning to ALL again!
    Got the software fixed.

    Attached are the photos of this interesting (to us) 1959-D cent.
    Pls comment which attributes have we identified correctly and incorrectly.
    And is this coin a good (or just a common) ifind?

    Thank you. Regards,
    NVTEs
    Attached Files

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    • 3˘nicker
      • Oct 2007
      • 128

      #3
      what i see about the date is corrosion, an 8 being used where the first nine is for a 1959 i'd say is about impossible. besides i believe the 19__ was struck on the master die so all they would have to change is the last two digits ( am i correct?) the only thing that stands out to me as being anything to look further into is what appears to be the doubled shoulder of lincoln on the reverse. the picture where you first mention trails is the lines from the die being polished, you'll notice many go all different ways
      Jimmy Ehrhart
      previous member of CONECA and C.F.C.C.

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      • Novicetoerr
        • Apr 2008
        • 595

        #4
        Hello and thank you again, and sorry for late follow-up...

        There is no corrosion nor open plating. The shiny areas are actually indents. And the outlines really look like '8's.

        Also may we further request, in addition to the trails, what can you tell about each of the other items we mis-identified (aside from what is in Lincoln's shoulder)?


        Thank you and regards,
        NVTEs.

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        • mustbebob
          Moderator
          • Aug 2007
          • 3050

          #5
          It still looks like to me that you are looking way to hard to find things. I would have figured that you would have begun to understand the process a little bit better by now. There are no trails, nor an 8 where the 9 is. There would be no plating problems on a 1959 coin (but there could be lamination's-of which this is not) Indentations on a coin (especially a circulated coin) are most likely caused by them being in circulation. There are no OMMs and I can't even see what it is you are calling OMMs. A slightly slanted mintmark is common on any coin that had its mintmark hand punched. You should know by now what doubled dies look like.
          Basically, if the actual coin had all of the things you have seen including doubled dies, RPMs, OMMS, RPD, trails, etc....it would be quite the coin, but in fact, I see none of those things at all. I, and others have mentioned before that your active imagination(s) is leading you away from what you need to be doing. Most errors or varieties do not require extreme magnification to see. If they do, then the chances are that it is too minor to list in the first place.
          As much time as was spent taking pictures of this one coin, one could have spent looking for genuine varieties/errors. It's not that we don't mind giving you feedback on these things, but for months now, we have been saying the same things about the same types of anomalies you have found. Something is not working here. Either we are not providing the education you need, or you have not begun to understand the processes that result in errors and varieties.
          Once you understand the minting process, and familiarize yourself with what is possible, and what is impossible or highly unlikely, then things will become much easier for you. Once again...leave the overactive imagination and the higher magnifications somewhere else. Look at each coin in a subjective manner, and ask yourself if what I am seeing is possible. Read, and look at all the information that is available to you in books, or on the Internet. Go back to some of your old posts and see if some of your questions have already been answered.
          Of course, we will continue to assist, but to be honest with you, the same stuff over and over again is beginning to get a little old. I personally want nothing better than to see you make some great finds in the future. There are things out there waiting for someone to find them. Those are what we love seeing pictures of. Stick with it, but take my comments as constructive remarks, not a put down. All of us started at the same point in the hobby. Time to promote yourself to the next level...isn't it?
          Bob Piazza
          Lincoln Cent Attributer

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          • Novicetoerr
            • Apr 2008
            • 595

            #6
            Originally posted by mustbebob View Post
            It still looks like to me that you are looking way to hard to find things. I would have figured that you would have begun to understand the process a little bit better by now. There are no trails, nor an 8 where the 9 is. There would be no plating problems on a 1959 coin (but there could be lamination's-of which this is not) Indentations on a coin (especially a circulated coin) are most likely caused by them being in circulation. There are no OMMs and I can't even see what it is you are calling OMMs. A slightly slanted mintmark is common on any coin that had its mintmark hand punched. You should know by now what doubled dies look like.
            Basically, if the actual coin had all of the things you have seen including doubled dies, RPMs, OMMS, RPD, trails, etc....it would be quite the coin, but in fact, I see none of those things at all. I, and others have mentioned before that your active imagination(s) is leading you away from what you need to be doing. Most errors or varieties do not require extreme magnification to see. If they do, then the chances are that it is too minor to list in the first place.
            As much time as was spent taking pictures of this one coin, one could have spent looking for genuine varieties/errors. It's not that we don't mind giving you feedback on these things, but for months now, we have been saying the same things about the same types of anomalies you have found. Something is not working here. Either we are not providing the education you need, or you have not begun to understand the processes that result in errors and varieties.
            Once you understand the minting process, and familiarize yourself with what is possible, and what is impossible or highly unlikely, then things will become much easier for you. Once again...leave the overactive imagination and the higher magnifications somewhere else. Look at each coin in a subjective manner, and ask yourself if what I am seeing is possible. Read, and look at all the information that is available to you in books, or on the Internet. Go back to some of your old posts and see if some of your questions have already been answered.
            Of course, we will continue to assist, but to be honest with you, the same stuff over and over again is beginning to get a little old. I personally want nothing better than to see you make some great finds in the future. There are things out there waiting for someone to find them. Those are what we love seeing pictures of. Stick with it, but take my comments as constructive remarks, not a put down. All of us started at the same point in the hobby. Time to promote yourself to the next level...isn't it?


            Bob,

            Thanks. Pardon again. Have passed this to the most novice of us.
            Have told him "I told you so. And seek the obvious only."

            Thanks,
            NVTEs

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