Pr1954 new DDR

[Centwise]

There are only two pf1954 LWC DDRs at the three sites that list them. I believe that I have an undocumented DDR and not just one of the two at a stage that is not listed [as it appears to be more minor than the other two]. I will try to post some pics. The doubling is on the EPU and there is a large die dot to the SW of the P [as a PUP].

Is this a new variety or is it one of the existing DDRs, but at a stage not shown on the three sites that cater to this information. If turns out to be new then I would like to see about getting a CONECA attribution number for it.

Thanks

Link to NGC coin.

[eaxtellcoin]

Nice job on the photo's Centwise!
For a proof and through the holder you did a very good job of no over glare and in focus. I believe it is a Double Die also. The marker under the "P" of PLURIBUS gives us something to help I.D. the coin. The Question is: Is this strong enouph to list? To me we do have one marker to identify. It's border line.
I'll try to see if I can get another response/look.
Eric

[MintErrors]

In my opinion, it is a tough call. I see what Centwise is showing.

I personally have a slightly difficult time determining the difference between a proof coin that is intentionally struck more than once and that potential doubled die. All the coin has to do is move just a tad and it becomes a bit of an issue. The DDO/DDRs are easier on business strikes or, obvious doubled die proofs.

[Centwise]

In my opinion, it is a tough call. I see what Centwise is showing.

I personally have a slightly difficult time determining the difference between a proof coin that is intentionally struck more than once and that potential doubled die. All the coin has to do is move just a tad and it becomes a bit of an issue. The DDO/DDRs are easier on business strikes or, obvious doubled die proofs.

Yes, proof doubled dies tend to be fairly minor partly because the mint employees take more "care" during the whole proof process. I think that is also why they tend to be rarer [AFAIK].

What you described is a double-struck coin which is an error and I don't see that much on proof coins. The doubling on a doubled die is on the die, not just on the coin. Subtle difference, but I am sure can happen.

[Centwise]

Nice job on the photo's Centwise!
For a proof and through the holder you did a very good job of no over glare and in focus. I believe it is a Double Die also. The marker under the "P" of PLURIBUS gives us something to help I.D. the coin. The Question is: Is this strong enouph to list? To me we do have one marker to identify. It's border line.
I'll try to see if I can get another response/look.
Eric

Thank you for taking a look. Yes, it is a minor class II as most of the proof D/D's are. And even the first dot doesn't show much elongation [or have the snow-cone effect] so it may not even merit a listing.

About the marker dot, that makes it easy to spot. I have looked at quite a few proof LWCs, but don't recall seeing any markers that obvious.

Again, thanks for taking your time to check it out.

[MintErrors]

Yes, proof doubled dies tend to be fairly minor partly because the mint employees take more "care" during the whole proof process. I think that is also why they tend to be rarer [AFAIK].

What you described is a double-struck coin which is an error and I don't see that much on proof coins. The doubling on a doubled die is on the die, not just on the coin. Subtle difference, but I am sure can happen.

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In my opinion, most US Minted Proof coins are struck more than once on purpose, its to get that near perfect coin look. Here is what the US Mint says about the striking of US Proof coins:

The term “proof” refers to a specialized minting process that begins by manually feeding burnished coin blanks into presses fitted with special dies. Each coin is struck multiple times so the softly frosted, yet detailed images seem to float above a mirror-like field. Watch this video to learn how proof coins are made.

reference:

https://www.usmint.gov/learn/coins-and-medals/collectible-coins

[MintErrors]

Here is the link to the YouTube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZMAY-53a-A