1992 "Close AM"

[Merlin8971]

The photos show two 1992-P Lincoln pennies. The shiny 1992 appears to have a "Close AM" in America and the other 1992 appears to have a "business" width "AM" in America.

Discussion, please.

[coin-crazy]

Nope both are business Wide AMs... Nice try and thanks for posting!!

Mikee

[Merlin8971]

Well

Well....then there are two separate "Wide AM" 1992 penny varieties....if you are right. The shiny penny is LESS THAN half the distance between the a and m as the darker 1992 penny. Both pennies are philadelphia mint to boot.

Curiously the "Cherrypickers" guide ONLY lists a 1992-D with a "Close AM whereas "Strike it rich with pocket change" lists a 1992-P, but also states this "Close AM" affects both the P & the D mints.

I was extremely disappointed that I waited for the 5th edition of the Cherrypickers Guide and found that is NOT an updated Edition. The pennies only go up to the year 2000 AND STOPS even though the Lincoln penny chapter is titled 1909 to date. The nickels chapter only goes to 1968-S. Where is a comprehensive book that is ACTUALLY up to date?

[coin-crazy]

Also to notice when determining, a CAM.The initals are not the same ..And for the cherry pickers guide,I dont waste my time . I stay pretty much up to date because Im on site to site.

Mikee

[rascal]

Well....then there are two separate "Wide AM" 1992 penny varieties....if you are right. The shiny penny is LESS THAN half the distance between the a and m as the darker 1992 penny. Both pennies are philadelphia mint to boot.

Curiously the "Cherrypickers" guide ONLY lists a 1992-D with a "Close AM whereas "Strike it rich with pocket change" lists a 1992-P, but also states this "Close AM" affects both the P & the D mints.

I was extremely disappointed that I waited for the 5th edition of the Cherrypickers Guide and found that is NOT an updated Edition. The pennies only go up to the year 2000 AND STOPS even though the Lincoln penny chapter is titled 1909 to date. The nickels chapter only goes to 1968-S. Where is a comprehensive book that is ACTUALLY up to date?

Merlin not all coin dies are identical and threre are slight differences in the way our coins looks. I have never found a 1992 close AM but I'm sure if someone did find one there would not be any question as to what it is. The reason your coin appears to be a close AM is probably because it looks like it has one of the little plating blisters between the bottom part of the A and M. Always remenber that the close AM will also have the M and E a little wider apart in America than the wide A M and the A and M will be touching each other or almost touching at the bottom of the letters on the close AM..

It is also good to learn to look at the distances between the M and E in America because they are different on the wide and close AM cents.This usually helps me to identify them.

[Merlin8971]

I know most

I know most dies ARE the same. That is because there are a number of working dies that are made from the master die. The ones that are different are the ones that cause errors or varieties, but for the most part the die details are the same.

However, to contradict myself, I found a second version of the 1989 strong FG initials in that the G on the second version does not have the horizontal bar of the G and the bottom extended serif is pointed rather than blunt.

[jcuve]

I do not believe this to be a Close AM RDV-007. The definitive way to be certain is an examination of the designer's initials FG.