1947S Lincoln Penny possible DDO-002

[rbroederer]

I am looking at a very nice 1947S Lincoln Penny. I see extra thickness on 'LIBERTY' with light extra thickness on IGWT. Mint mark positioning looks good. The mint mark is MMS-004 (trumpet tail). There is a crescent shaped Die Gouge below the ear (stage C). Thoughts or comments?

[mustbebob]

That die gouge under the ear would normally be a determining factor for this die. However, I have never seen this variety with the die scratches yours shows and the mint mark does not seem to match the location of the known variety. That could be the angle of the photo though. In addition, your does not seem to have the thickness seen on the actual variety. I would say this one needs to be examined in hand to verify if it is or isn't that variety.

[jcuve]

With MM being in a different spot precludes it being DDO-002 - I am not sure if see extra thickness or not in LIBERTY

[rbroederer]

With MM being in a different spot precludes it being DDO-002 - I am not sure if see extra thickness or not in LIBERTY

Hello Jason, Picture one is the picture from VV's website "Date and Mintmark" for the DDO-002. Picture 2 is the second picture from my post of the subject coin. I have drawn lines from the bottom of the "9" and the "7" in the dates of both pictures. Then I drew a line roughly parallel to the upright in the 4 of the date on both pictures. Allowing for possibly two different positions of the camera when the pictures were taken and my crummy line drawing skills, these mint marks look like they are in the same position to me...the totally untrained novice. Can you point out to me what I am missing. Please remember I am in a learning curve and recently learned that the mint mark position was the first thing to check...lol. I would also like to tell you, before you answer, how much I appreciate all of the answers and help you have given me on my flurry of posts.

And one more thing about the thickness in 'LIBERTY'...first is that a relative relationship? I am pretty sure that it is so, if it is relative...Is that relative to other 1947S Lincoln Cents? Or other 1947 Lincoln Cents (PDS)? Or other 'S' Lincoln Cents? Or other Lincoln Cents in the same time frame, as in did multiple years share a master die.

FYI, I had 4 OBW rolls of 1947S Cents that I purchased 20 years ago on eBay. I never would have opened them but someone sounded an alarm on eBay that rolls being sold on there were fraudulent and specifically named that year. I opened them up and they were 1947S OBW rolls. I separated out the MS65 to MS67 and put the rest back in rolls (which I still have). I am looking through the cherry pickings now for varieties. No doubt more than you wanted to know.

[jcuve]

I made an overlay and the MMs are close, yours appears to be a tad lower - that said there could be variance between the cameras. The thickness is relative other 1947 Lincolns.