1971 S DDO S/S or RPM + DDR

[CoinCollector2.0]

One of my recent discovery in the great Lincoln series is the 1971 S is a gift for all those who are in love with Lincoln pennies.

yours truly,

Coin Collector 2.0

[mustbebob]

Good photos. So you are thinking this one coin is a DDO, a DDR and an RPM? Could you be a little bit more specific and tell us what you are seeing? I would appreciate it.

[CoinCollector2.0]

Dear Bob Piazza

Nice meeting you, & thank you for praising the beauty of this beautiful unique Lincoln penny.

Good photos. So you are thinking this one coin is a DDO, a DDR and an RPM? Could you be a little bit more specific and tell us what you are seeing? I would appreciate it.

That’s what I thought however, the final verdict will always be urs, since you are the Lincoln cent attributor and have wealth of experience! I am here to get educated sir, on the other hand I believe this has similarities with the 1970 S Lincoln penny DDO! Moreover, if you can’t spot what I thought would be in the above clear pictures I am afraid I could be wrong!

In any case, I must say I really appreciate your rapid response.

With sincere respect

Coin Collector 2.0

[mustbebob]

All I am asking is that you tell us specifically what you see. I can't judge any coin because it may look like another one from another year. I really want to help you here, and as you are finding out, it can be terribly difficult using photos alone. I went through your photos again, and unfortunately, I can't see anything that looks like hub doubling. There are other things it could be like machine doubling, but I just can't tell. Did PCGS identify anything during the encapsulation?

[jcuve]

The tie is probably just one of the anomalies on half of the 1971 Lincolns. The reverse is not hub doubling, I am not sure what it, it could even be something caused by the light being too bright.

[CoinCollector2.0]

All I am asking is that you tell us specifically what you see. I can't judge any coin because it may look like another one from another year. I really want to help you here, and as you are finding out, it can be terribly difficult using photos alone. I went through your photos again, and unfortunately, I can't see anything that looks like hub doubling. There are other things it could be like machine doubling, but I just can't tell. Did PCGS identify anything during the encapsulation?

Thank you. I see S over S. Or RPM + upon closer observation the date has miner doubling. In the reverse the poles of memorial building has machine doubling. A normal pole would not look like that on the other hand, the statue seems to be sideways rather then being straight forward like every other normal coin. My personal observation, you are the expert you know better then me.

Having said that, to answer your question, PCGS did not identified anything during the encapsulation. My understanding PCGS only acknowledges the cherry pickers guidelines, anything which are newly discovered PCGS do not attribute them. Most of my coins has doubling which was discovered by me however, none of them received attribution from PCGS despite mentioning it to them. If you want you can check all my coins in PCGS set registry under CoinCollector2.0 and tell me if I am wrong ! I guess have to find a different 3rd party grading company where they do acknowledge the Coneca attribution.

Sincerely,

CoinCollector2.0

[CoinCollector2.0]

The tie is probably just one of the anomalies on half of the 1971 Lincolns. The reverse is not hub doubling, I am not sure what it, it could even be something caused by the light being too bright.

Thank you. These pictures are from PCGS TrueView service which I got for all my coins. The Trueview feature Is one of the best modern days service which PCGS offers where they make sure that there is no room for errors. These are the true faces of my coins which looks exactly like the one in the above pictures.


Sincerely,

CoinCollector2.0

[CoinCollector2.0]

mustbebob One last thing I want to mention here is that, pay close attention to ( In God We Trust) + (Liberty) all has doubling. Just Zoom it in. I do not mention errors which are visible rather I bring new discoveries to your attention, and I have so much more to showcase in the future which were never discovered in the past.


Sincerely,
CoinCollector2.0

[mustbebob]

I really don't need to be told what to look at and what incredible things you might have. I don't say that haphazardly. I have been doing this for over 50 years and as such I look very carefully at everything. I will give you my opinion based on what you presented.

I do not mention errors which are visible rather I bring new discoveries to your attention, and I have so much more to showcase in the future which were never discovered in the past.

I have no idea what you are trying to say here. Invisible errors? New discoveries? I understand your pictures may be from Trueview. You think that makes a difference? You say they make no errors? Are they attributing this coin as a variety? Did they tell you the doubling was where you say it was? Did they assign a variety or error number for you? All they are doing is photographing your coin. So, since they did not assign any numbers to it, what do you want us to do? You have had 2 attributers give their opinions already. We do indeed get to look at nice photos, but we make our opinions known on what is presented to us. So, in a nutshell, nice pictures or not, I stand by my evaluation. The only thing we could possibly do differently is have an in hand look. If you are willing to wait for attributions to open up, you can submit them to us for a closer look.

[CoinCollector2.0]

mustbebob Hi,

“I really don't need to be told what to look at and what incredible things you might have. I don't say that haphazardly. I have been doing this for over 50 years and as such I look very carefully at everything. I will give you my opinion based on what you presented.“

My sincere apologies, if I came across as a imperious person as I had no intention to question your knowledge. Talking in front, and through messages are completely different. Often messages are understood differently, & diminishing.

The way I have been brought up; I was always told to respect those who are younger then you, & if they are older then you, you must respect them like your own parents, or elders, & as such I respect your 50 years of knowledge, and hopefully will see you educating us for another 100 more years to come, God willing.

Moreover; I will find a way, and make my self a bit educated, in order to find out how to submit coins to Coneca for observation, and attribution.

Once again, I beg your pardon for the misunderstanding.


With sincere respect,

Coin Collector 2.0

[mustbebob]

Everything is cool. My point was just that the people who work on this forum do so because of their expertise. We were asked to do this because of our love of the hobby too. It would be very easy for me to just not do anything, but I am a teacher of sorts. Who knows, some day you could be the expert working here and I would ask your indulgence on some issues.
It seems that sometimes, people don't like what we say because it isn't what they want to hear. All I am asking is that you give me the benefit of the doubt. There are other's in this club who will make sure I know it if I make a mistake, and believe me...it can happen. Thank you very much for your reply.

[CoinCollector2.0]

mustbebob God bless; it is a huge complement for me coming from a Maestro perspective me working in the Blessed place where you are currently sharing your apprehension.
I can’t speak for others, and I do not like to judge others either, as it is not my place to do so.
On the other hand, I am always open to different context + keen to learn, as for me every day I learn something new.

Stay safe, & blessed.

With sincere respect,

CoinCollector2.0